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::::::::::::But you do not only accept eye-witness accounts. I mean if you get into you kitchen and the door of your fridge is open, and there is water all over the floor I would assume that the ice melted, even I there wouldn't be somebody who witnessed it. [[User:Order|Order]] 09:07, 29 November 2007 (EST)
::::::::::::But you do not only accept eye-witness accounts. I mean if you get into you kitchen and the door of your fridge is open, and there is water all over the floor I would assume that the ice melted, even I there wouldn't be somebody who witnessed it. [[User:Order|Order]] 09:07, 29 November 2007 (EST)
::::::::::::: True, I do accept things other than eye-witness accounts, but such things are not science. So I would ''assume'', and therefore ''believe'' that the ice melted, but I couldn't claim that as science. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:54, 29 November 2007 (EST)
::::::::::::: True, I do accept things other than eye-witness accounts, but such things are not science. So I would ''assume'', and therefore ''believe'' that the ice melted, but I couldn't claim that as science. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:54, 29 November 2007 (EST)
:::::::::::::According to all philosophies of science, be it Popper, Lakatos, Carnap, Feyerabend, or Kuhn, and despite the disagreement on who science works, this is exactly what science is about. Assumptions about the world, and the quest for supporting or contradicting evidence. [[User:Order|Order]] 21:29, 29 November 2007 (EST)
::::::: The biblical answer depends on what the Bible actually says. If you are driving and encounter a "stop" sign, do you argue with the policeman that what it means depends on how you interpret it? Or do you recognise that it means that you are to stop?
::::::: The biblical answer depends on what the Bible actually says. If you are driving and encounter a "stop" sign, do you argue with the policeman that what it means depends on how you interpret it? Or do you recognise that it means that you are to stop?
::::::: You are restating your opinion that whether or not long ages are atheistic depends on the correlation between beliefs. I have a different opinion, and you are simply restating yours rather than justifying it. Despite me pointing it out, you are still ignoring the distinction between theism and belief in the Bible. You ''cannot'' combine an old-world view and belief in the Bible and remain consistent. Many people do combine the two, but they are not being consistent.
::::::: You are restating your opinion that whether or not long ages are atheistic depends on the correlation between beliefs. I have a different opinion, and you are simply restating yours rather than justifying it. Despite me pointing it out, you are still ignoring the distinction between theism and belief in the Bible. You ''cannot'' combine an old-world view and belief in the Bible and remain consistent. Many people do combine the two, but they are not being consistent.