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:::::Why would I have someone look at the versions above when that wasn't what I originally reverted?  And that is exactly the type of thing that bothers me.  We aren't about grandstanding or slights of hand.  We work as a team here.  If you make alterations that aren't accepted then you move to discussion.  Due to the volume and tone of your original edit, it was not unexpected that it could be controversial.  When you had it confirmed, explanation in the talk section is in order, especially since I specifically requested you to do so in my original reverting. <blockquote>(Removed all mention of the exchange rate dropping to 1 trillion to the dollar? If you want to rewrite the section, take it to talk first)</blockquote>Trying to force back through your changes without first working together was inappropriate.  I am pleased we reached an eventual accommodation, but the method used is counterproductive and not the preferred one.  I wish to reiterate again that I am not questioning your knowledge.  I believe that you could and did bring constructive information to the table and I hope you will do so again, but in a form that respects long term editors and what we can bring to the table as well. Thank you [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:19, 30 November 2007 (EST)
 
:::::Why would I have someone look at the versions above when that wasn't what I originally reverted?  And that is exactly the type of thing that bothers me.  We aren't about grandstanding or slights of hand.  We work as a team here.  If you make alterations that aren't accepted then you move to discussion.  Due to the volume and tone of your original edit, it was not unexpected that it could be controversial.  When you had it confirmed, explanation in the talk section is in order, especially since I specifically requested you to do so in my original reverting. <blockquote>(Removed all mention of the exchange rate dropping to 1 trillion to the dollar? If you want to rewrite the section, take it to talk first)</blockquote>Trying to force back through your changes without first working together was inappropriate.  I am pleased we reached an eventual accommodation, but the method used is counterproductive and not the preferred one.  I wish to reiterate again that I am not questioning your knowledge.  I believe that you could and did bring constructive information to the table and I hope you will do so again, but in a form that respects long term editors and what we can bring to the table as well. Thank you [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:19, 30 November 2007 (EST)
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Okay, that's the end of this present discussion.  Now for a couple of observations of my own.
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* In line with [[Help:Editing Etiquette|Editing Etiquette]], Order's [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Germany&diff=342599&oldid=341172 alteration of 25th November] was proper, if he had "a reasonable expectation that other editors [would] accept [the] change".  LearnTogether's [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Germany&diff=next&oldid=343687 reversion of 28th November] was not proper, because (a) it was ''not'' reasonable to assume that Order, having made the change, would accept the change without a good reason, and (b) so such reason was provided, only an edit comment that said that Order should have discussed it first, which was not in fact required.
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* LearnTogether seems to be be implying that he is a "long term editor" and that Order is not such, being a more recent editor.  However, this seems unsupportable given that (a) Order has been editing Conservapedia since 11th March, compared with LearnTogether who has been editing since 8th May, and (b) although LearnTogether has been editing ''this'' article for longer (14 weeks compared with Order eight weeks), Order is not exactly a newcomer to it.
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:25, 30 November 2007 (EST)
 
    
 
    
 
Perhaps one (or both?) of you need(s) to reread [[Help:Editing Etiquette|Editing Etiquette]].  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:37, 27 November 2007 (EST)
 
Perhaps one (or both?) of you need(s) to reread [[Help:Editing Etiquette|Editing Etiquette]].  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:37, 27 November 2007 (EST)
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