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*How to rewrite the Wanted pages rule[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Contest3&diff=next&oldid=343798]
 
*How to rewrite the Wanted pages rule[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Contest3&diff=next&oldid=343798]
 
Please feel free to create a section for other concerns - and for more specifics on the above, simply visit the link to the right of each item, where clarification is given.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
Please feel free to create a section for other concerns - and for more specifics on the above, simply visit the link to the right of each item, where clarification is given.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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==Selections of Teams==
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==Relating to Teams==
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==Role of Team Captain==
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===Selections of Teams===
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===Role of Team Captain===
 
I suggest that team captains have as small a role as possible. They should be selected based on who were the top contributers in the previous contest (in this case [[Contest3]]) and they should pick teams. After the Contest as started, however, there role should become nominal.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
I suggest that team captains have as small a role as possible. They should be selected based on who were the top contributers in the previous contest (in this case [[Contest3]]) and they should pick teams. After the Contest as started, however, there role should become nominal.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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==Ensuring the Rules are Understood==
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==Relating to Rules==
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==Point Tallies==
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===Ensuring the Rules are Understood===
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===Point Tallies===
 
Perhaps the best way to do this is a general format. Geo and HelpJazz were kind enough to point out [[User:Iduan/Contest3|my layout]] as suitable - however I agree with them that it is far too specific. Perhaps something like this would be better:
 
Perhaps the best way to do this is a general format. Geo and HelpJazz were kind enough to point out [[User:Iduan/Contest3|my layout]] as suitable - however I agree with them that it is far too specific. Perhaps something like this would be better:
 
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</pre>--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
</pre>--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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===How to Solve Conflicts Quickly===
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Perhaps we should elect 2 Contest Chairmen who could immediately solve conflicts - candidates could volunteer and then based on those candidates' contributions, contributors would vote for their top 2 preferences, and the 2 with the most votes would be selected.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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==Purpose==
 
==Purpose==
 
I believe the purpose of the contest is to improve Conservapedia by tapping into the competitive side of our editors--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
I believe the purpose of the contest is to improve Conservapedia by tapping into the competitive side of our editors--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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==Solve Conflicts Quickly==
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Perhaps we should elect 2 Contest Chairmen who could immediately solve conflicts - candidates could volunteer and then based on those candidates' contributions, contributors would vote for their top 2 preferences, and the 2 with the most votes would be selected.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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==Wanted Pages Rule==
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I think that in order to avoid cheating - only wanted pages that exist at the start of the contest should be allowed to count - these pages would be recorded on a page (and the page would be protected) to ensure accuracy. That way we won't have people artificially creating wanted pages they can create--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
   
==Specific Point Issues==
 
==Specific Point Issues==
 
Please place all disagreements with regards to point values here (i.e. if you think "x" should get 20 points instead of 5) - and try to separate by section--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:43, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
Please place all disagreements with regards to point values here (i.e. if you think "x" should get 20 points instead of 5) - and try to separate by section--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:43, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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=== Redirects should be very low value ===
 
=== Redirects should be very low value ===
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I am not even sure why this is controversial. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AContest4&diff=365801&oldid=365799] [[User:StephenW|StephenW]] 23:46, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
I am not even sure why this is controversial. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AContest4&diff=365801&oldid=365799] [[User:StephenW|StephenW]] 23:46, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
:Firstly, the reason I reverted was because the change wasn't brought up here first - and in order to AVOID a bunch of reverts we should try and discuss point changes before doing them. I do think redirects should get two points, though, because while it is easy to do a redirect, it is just as easy to, say, add a period to an article, which is also worth two points (minor edit).--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:49, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
:Firstly, the reason I reverted was because the change wasn't brought up here first - and in order to AVOID a bunch of reverts we should try and discuss point changes before doing them. I do think redirects should get two points, though, because while it is easy to do a redirect, it is just as easy to, say, add a period to an article, which is also worth two points (minor edit).--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:49, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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::::Fine, if you want to vet minor points on the talk page first, you are basically asking me not to collaborate with you.  Just put a notice at the top of the page "This is a work by Iduan, please do not edit, it's mine."  [[User:StephenW|StephenW]] 00:08, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
::::Fine, if you want to vet minor points on the talk page first, you are basically asking me not to collaborate with you.  Just put a notice at the top of the page "This is a work by Iduan, please do not edit, it's mine."  [[User:StephenW|StephenW]] 00:08, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
:::::I reverted you because all changes should be discussed here first. You started discussing here - I said I disagreed with you - but I'm not the authority on this - when more people start commenting on this talk page then it might end up that we do make redirects worth one point.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 11:41, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
:::::I reverted you because all changes should be discussed here first. You started discussing here - I said I disagreed with you - but I'm not the authority on this - when more people start commenting on this talk page then it might end up that we do make redirects worth one point.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 11:41, 7 January 2008 (EST)
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===Wanted Pages Rule===
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I think that in order to avoid cheating - only wanted pages that exist at the start of the contest should be allowed to count - these pages would be recorded on a page (and the page would be protected) to ensure accuracy. That way we won't have people artificially creating wanted pages they can create--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
    
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