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==Specific Point Issues==
 
==Specific Point Issues==
 
Please place all disagreements with regards to point values here (i.e. if you think "x" should get 20 points instead of 5) - and try to separate by section--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:43, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
Please place all disagreements with regards to point values here (i.e. if you think "x" should get 20 points instead of 5) - and try to separate by section--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:43, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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====Wanted Pages Rule====
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I think that in order to avoid cheating - only wanted pages that exist at the start of the contest should be allowed to count - these pages would be recorded on a page (and the page would be protected) to ensure accuracy. That way we won't have people artificially creating wanted pages they can create--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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: I don't know that have to limit it that sharply.  But obviously creating wanted pages simply to extinguish them is silly and unacceptable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:00, 8 January 2008 (EST)
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: I think Iduan's idea of putting all the wanted pages on a list would work pretty well.  I can't really think of anything better. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]]<sup>[[User talk:SharonS|Talk]]</sup> 09:11, 8 January 2008 (EST)
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=== Redirects should be very low value ===
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====Scoring Examples====
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Perhaps we should have links "guideline" articles which meet the minimum qualifications for each level. This way there would be something specific to look at when there are questions. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:15, 7 January 2008 (EST)
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I'm of the opinion that these should score one point, not two. The phenomenally miniscule amount of effort that is required for these, and the fact that they are almost always allowed to remain dead-ends and such until after a contest… --[[User:AngryCommunist|<font color="#ff0000">Angry</font><font color="#000000">Communist</font>]] 16:12, 9 January 2008 (EST)
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===Resolved===
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==== Redirects should be very low value ====
 
I am not even sure why this is controversial. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AContest4&diff=365801&oldid=365799] [[User:StephenW|StephenW]] 23:46, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
I am not even sure why this is controversial. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AContest4&diff=365801&oldid=365799] [[User:StephenW|StephenW]] 23:46, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
:Firstly, the reason I reverted was because the change wasn't brought up here first - and in order to AVOID a bunch of reverts we should try and discuss point changes before doing them. I do think redirects should get two points, though, because while it is easy to do a redirect, it is just as easy to, say, add a period to an article, which is also worth two points (minor edit).--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:49, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
:Firstly, the reason I reverted was because the change wasn't brought up here first - and in order to AVOID a bunch of reverts we should try and discuss point changes before doing them. I do think redirects should get two points, though, because while it is easy to do a redirect, it is just as easy to, say, add a period to an article, which is also worth two points (minor edit).--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:49, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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:::::::Ok, though then should we make minor edits less than two points? Because really it's incredibly easy ot just find an article that, say, doesn't have the title bolded in the intro-sentence, and then change that and claim 2 points. --<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 21:09, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
:::::::Ok, though then should we make minor edits less than two points? Because really it's incredibly easy ot just find an article that, say, doesn't have the title bolded in the intro-sentence, and then change that and claim 2 points. --<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 21:09, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
::::::::Personally, I never counted bolding on its own as a minor edit; the article would need to have some other change as well.  You may wish to consider implementing a similar standard. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 23:04, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
::::::::Personally, I never counted bolding on its own as a minor edit; the article would need to have some other change as well.  You may wish to consider implementing a similar standard. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 23:04, 7 January 2008 (EST)
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I think that in order to avoid cheating - only wanted pages that exist at the start of the contest should be allowed to count - these pages would be recorded on a page (and the page would be protected) to ensure accuracy. That way we won't have people artificially creating wanted pages they can create--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:37, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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: I don't know that have to limit it that sharply.  But obviously creating wanted pages simply to extinguish them is silly and unacceptable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:00, 8 January 2008 (EST)
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: I think Iduan's idea of putting all the wanted pages on a list would work pretty well.  I can't really think of anything better. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]]<sup>[[User talk:SharonS|Talk]]</sup> 09:11, 8 January 2008 (EST)
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Perhaps we should have links "guideline" articles which meet the minimum qualifications for each level. This way there would be something specific to look at when there are questions. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:15, 7 January 2008 (EST)
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There is a 14-point difference between a QNA and the next level down. I think this level should be lowered (to, say, 15 points) or raise the requirements a bit. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:15, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
There is a 14-point difference between a QNA and the next level down. I think this level should be lowered (to, say, 15 points) or raise the requirements a bit. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:15, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
:I agree--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 21:10, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 
:I agree--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 21:10, 7 January 2008 (EST)
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I'm of the opinion that these should score one point, not two. The phenomenally miniscule amount of effort that is required for these, and the fact that they are almost always allowed to remain dead-ends and such until after a contest… --[[User:AngryCommunist|<font color="#ff0000">Angry</font><font color="#000000">Communist</font>]] 16:12, 9 January 2008 (EST)
   
==Placement of this page==
 
==Placement of this page==
 
Shouldn't this be [[Conservapedia:Contest 4]]? --[[User:AngryCommunist|<font color="#ff0000">Angry</font><font color="#000000">Communist</font>]] 23:24, 6 January 2008 (EST)
 
Shouldn't this be [[Conservapedia:Contest 4]]? --[[User:AngryCommunist|<font color="#ff0000">Angry</font><font color="#000000">Communist</font>]] 23:24, 6 January 2008 (EST)
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