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, 01:46, January 25, 2008→Food for thought: unsigned (x2) and reply (x2)
::::: Why not? That's all you did. And no, I don't particularly care to present any. Not for somebody who criticises something that he knows next to nothing about. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:00, 24 January 2008 (EST)
::::: Why not? That's all you did. And no, I don't particularly care to present any. Not for somebody who criticises something that he knows next to nothing about. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:00, 24 January 2008 (EST)
:::::: I have read the bible cover to cover, and most of the Koran. I am not trying to undermine your belief, simply to understand it. I recieve the same reaction from the faithful everytime. They can talk for hours about why there must be a creator, but are stubbornly silent when asked why they have chosen their particular God out of thousands.
:::::: I have read the bible cover to cover, and most of the Koran. I am not trying to undermine your belief, simply to understand it. I recieve the same reaction from the faithful everytime. They can talk for hours about why there must be a creator, but are stubbornly silent when asked why they have chosen their particular God out of thousands. {{unsigned|Mcai9mh3}}
::::::: You "received the same reaction ... everytime", but the "reaction" you received here was to a ''different'' question. You have not asked us why our "particular God" is the right one. And this is not really the place to do it anyway. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:46, 24 January 2008 (EST)
:::There is a great deal of evidence to support the "claims" of Christianity, as well as a 2000 year history, as opposed to a recently made up mockery of religion. It's not equivalent.[[User:RobertK|RobertK]] 20:47, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:::There is a great deal of evidence to support the "claims" of Christianity, as well as a 2000 year history, as opposed to a recently made up mockery of religion. It's not equivalent.[[User:RobertK|RobertK]] 20:47, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:::: Longevity is not evidence. There are older beleifs and religions than christianity. {{unsigned|Mcai9mh3}}
:::: Longevity is not evidence. There are older beleifs and religions than christianity. {{unsigned|Mcai9mh3}}
::::: That depends on how you look at it, but it ''is'' evidence of a sort. See [http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nowayjose.html here]. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:00, 24 January 2008 (EST)
::::: That depends on how you look at it, but it ''is'' evidence of a sort. See [http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nowayjose.html here]. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:00, 24 January 2008 (EST)
:::::: Im sorry but that website is a load of waffle. The success of any religion is not a testament to its truth, nor is it a sign of divine favour. If anything religion spreads where there is lack of or poor education and retreats where confronted with it. Hence christianity and islam are on the rise in Africa and latin america, wheras it is in decline in America, Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan and New Zealand.
:::::: Im sorry but that website is a load of waffle. The success of any religion is not a testament to its truth, nor is it a sign of divine favour. If anything religion spreads where there is lack of or poor education and retreats where confronted with it. Hence christianity and islam are on the rise in Africa and latin america, wheras it is in decline in America, Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan and New Zealand. {{unsigned|Mcai9mh3}}
::::::: If you are going to reject a good web-site as "a load of waffle", then you are not really interested in learning. The article I pointed you to did not say that Christianity is true simply because it's been successful. If that's what you think, then you either didn't read it or didn't read it properly. Christianity is on the rise in other places than those you mention, including, I'm reasonably sure, here in Australia, if you discount those who go to church for social reasons or put "Christian" on the census forms out of tradition. In other words, "true" Christians as opposed to "nominal" Christians are increasing in number in Australia, I'd be reasonably sure. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:46, 24 January 2008 (EST)
==FSM and ID criticism==
==FSM and ID criticism==