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→Social effects of Creationist ideas: The evidence is there.
::::Keep in mind, [[Wikipedia]] has a [[liberal bias]]. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 14:14, 2 February 2008 (EST)
::::Keep in mind, [[Wikipedia]] has a [[liberal bias]]. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 14:14, 2 February 2008 (EST)
:::::Order, of course it is only opinion, as this is not something that is empirically testable, but it is, as you said, ''educated'' (or perhaps we could say ''expert'') opinion, and opinion ''based on evidence''. And what it is talking about is the influence of ''Christianity'', not the ''church''. Perhaps some/the religious ''institutions'' did limit it in cases, but that is different to saying that ''Christianity'' limited it. Historically, the most Christian nation on Earth has been America, the same country that has produced more scientists than the ''rest of the world put together'', I believe. The point being that there is plenty of evidence (albeit not absolute proof, which is impossible anyway) for the claim, and it is really only the unwillingness of most atheists and agnostics to acknowledge this that leads to it being questioned. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:56, 2 February 2008 (EST)