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Let's eliminate the confusion
Sailors or prison inmates who have sex (voluntarily, or as rape victims) with other men are said by some writers not to be "homosexual". They are merely "acting out their desires" or "fulfilling their appetites" in an opportunistic way. This view makes out human beings to be worse than animals. People can decide what to do, upon rational reflection - and even after earnest prayer. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 18:36, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
Sailors or prison inmates who have sex (voluntarily, or as rape victims) with other men are said by some writers not to be "homosexual". They are merely "acting out their desires" or "fulfilling their appetites" in an opportunistic way. This view makes out human beings to be worse than animals. People can decide what to do, upon rational reflection - and even after earnest prayer. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 18:36, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
==Confusion as a debating tactic==
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*Attitudes towards such acts vary, subjectively, from culture to culture, and from individual to individual. Socially liberal individuals cite references to and records of sexual relations between persons of the same sex in almost every human civilization throughout history. They would argue that this makes the acts acceptable.
*These support the idea that a subjective cultural ''imprimatur'' of acceptability does not save the objective immorality of the act.
#It doesn't matter what one's attitude is. Conservatives believe that moral law is absolute, even if there is some discussion over just precisely what it is that moral law requires or forbids.
#Theft and murder also have existed throughout history, but no one argues that this makes these acts acceptable.
#Don't use 100 dollar phrases like subjective cultural ''imprimatur'' - we speak plain English around here, bub.