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Skating on thin ice
While etymologically speaking, your definition of theater is correct, I'd like to point out that modern usage of the word in the majority of cases pertains strictly to the variety of theater that is performed live on stage without any cameras. I know many people in the acting business, and believe me, there is a huge distinction between "theater acting" and "acting for film/tv". That is why one will have an agent for theater, and another for film and tv because it is now recognized that these are 2 separate mediums. It is for this reason that I propose this article be narrowed in focus, as most people reading the title will assume it pertains to live theater, and thus in its current state is rather misleading. That aside, to encompass such a broad array of subjects without mentioning any pioneers in any of the genres while giving Hays a disproportionate amount of space is an insult to those who actually furthered the craft (in film, television or live theater). If I were writing an article on classical music, for example, i would not focus on those who attempted to restrict or undermine the composers, but rather on the composers themselves. It's only appropriate. I would also like it if the article could have a slightly more objectice tone; (saying plots became more sinful is a personal judgement call, not an undisputed fact). [[User:StephenS|StephenS]] 14:37, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
While etymologically speaking, your definition of theater is correct, I'd like to point out that modern usage of the word in the majority of cases pertains strictly to the variety of theater that is performed live on stage without any cameras. I know many people in the acting business, and believe me, there is a huge distinction between "theater acting" and "acting for film/tv". That is why one will have an agent for theater, and another for film and tv because it is now recognized that these are 2 separate mediums. It is for this reason that I propose this article be narrowed in focus, as most people reading the title will assume it pertains to live theater, and thus in its current state is rather misleading. That aside, to encompass such a broad array of subjects without mentioning any pioneers in any of the genres while giving Hays a disproportionate amount of space is an insult to those who actually furthered the craft (in film, television or live theater). If I were writing an article on classical music, for example, i would not focus on those who attempted to restrict or undermine the composers, but rather on the composers themselves. It's only appropriate. I would also like it if the article could have a slightly more objectice tone; (saying plots became more sinful is a personal judgement call, not an undisputed fact). [[User:StephenS|StephenS]] 14:37, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
:I disagree with you with regards to the influence of William Hays and Joseph I. Breen--which probably ought to surprise no one, least of all you. Maybe ''you'' appreciate what the stage, [[motion picture]]s, and [[television]] have all become today. But ''I'' do not.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 20:51, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
:I disagree with you with regards to the influence of William Hays and Joseph I. Breen--which probably ought to surprise no one, least of all you. Maybe ''you'' appreciate what the stage, [[motion picture]]s, and [[television]] have all become today. But ''I'' do not.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 20:51, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
== Skating on thin ice ==
[[User:StephenS]], if that is the best you can do--call that which is sinful not sinful, and imply that Christian conventions are "narrow" and ought to be ignored--then your proposal to "correct" this article is not promising.
Do you deny that [[Nero]], Emperor of [[Rome]], would be proud of some of the spectacles that made it into film shortly before the enforcement-in-fact of the [[Motion Picture Production Code]]? Not to mention some of the spectacles produced today? I cannot even describe them in any detail without violating every rule of family friendship that I, as a senior administrator, am sworn to enforce here.
If you want to mention men like Henrik Ibsen and Anton Checkhov, mention them. But that is not what you started out doing. You started out watering down the criticism of what theater has become that I fully intended to convey and that I insist shall remain.
Now you know what I meant by "discuss that on this page first."--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 21:01, 21 March 2008 (EDT)