| | While etymologically speaking, your definition of theater is correct, I'd like to point out that modern usage of the word in the majority of cases pertains strictly to the variety of theater that is performed live on stage without any cameras. I know many people in the acting business, and believe me, there is a huge distinction between "theater acting" and "acting for film/tv". That is why one will have an agent for theater, and another for film and tv because it is now recognized that these are 2 separate mediums. It is for this reason that I propose this article be narrowed in focus, as most people reading the title will assume it pertains to live theater, and thus in its current state is rather misleading. That aside, to encompass such a broad array of subjects without mentioning any pioneers in any of the genres while giving Hays a disproportionate amount of space is an insult to those who actually furthered the craft (in film, television or live theater). If I were writing an article on classical music, for example, i would not focus on those who attempted to restrict or undermine the composers, but rather on the composers themselves. It's only appropriate. I would also like it if the article could have a slightly more objectice tone; (saying plots became more sinful is a personal judgement call, not an undisputed fact). [[User:StephenS|StephenS]] 14:37, 21 March 2008 (EDT) | | While etymologically speaking, your definition of theater is correct, I'd like to point out that modern usage of the word in the majority of cases pertains strictly to the variety of theater that is performed live on stage without any cameras. I know many people in the acting business, and believe me, there is a huge distinction between "theater acting" and "acting for film/tv". That is why one will have an agent for theater, and another for film and tv because it is now recognized that these are 2 separate mediums. It is for this reason that I propose this article be narrowed in focus, as most people reading the title will assume it pertains to live theater, and thus in its current state is rather misleading. That aside, to encompass such a broad array of subjects without mentioning any pioneers in any of the genres while giving Hays a disproportionate amount of space is an insult to those who actually furthered the craft (in film, television or live theater). If I were writing an article on classical music, for example, i would not focus on those who attempted to restrict or undermine the composers, but rather on the composers themselves. It's only appropriate. I would also like it if the article could have a slightly more objectice tone; (saying plots became more sinful is a personal judgement call, not an undisputed fact). [[User:StephenS|StephenS]] 14:37, 21 March 2008 (EDT) |
| | :I disagree with you with regards to the influence of William Hays and Joseph I. Breen--which probably ought to surprise no one, least of all you. Maybe ''you'' appreciate what the stage, [[motion picture]]s, and [[television]] have all become today. But ''I'' do not.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 20:51, 21 March 2008 (EDT) | | :I disagree with you with regards to the influence of William Hays and Joseph I. Breen--which probably ought to surprise no one, least of all you. Maybe ''you'' appreciate what the stage, [[motion picture]]s, and [[television]] have all become today. But ''I'' do not.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 20:51, 21 March 2008 (EDT) |
| | + | : StephenS, if you are saying that sinfulness is a personal judgement, then I disagree. If you are saying that claiming that (many of) the plots are sinful is a personal judgement, then I disagree. If you are saying that claiming that they have become ''more'' sinful is a personal judgement, I might agree with that, but on the other hand, I think it's fairly obvious when you compare modern plots with plots from 50 years ago, for example. |