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:::Then he created a terrible strawman for the Big Bang theory, it has since been refined by Hawking among others. Whilst paradoxes remain as they always will, they seem as equally paradoxical as God; although the implications of such a being in turn create yet more paradoxes. -Barnes
 
:::Then he created a terrible strawman for the Big Bang theory, it has since been refined by Hawking among others. Whilst paradoxes remain as they always will, they seem as equally paradoxical as God; although the implications of such a being in turn create yet more paradoxes. -Barnes
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:::: I assume that you are referring to Alan Guth creating a strawman.  A strawman argument is an argument that claims that ''someone else'' proposes something, which you then proceed to demolish.  But Guth was not claiming that ''someone else'' proposed this:  he is one of the Big Bang experts, and ''he'' was proposing this.  So no, it's not a strawman argument at all.  Further, this dates from six years ago; I'm not sure that you are correct that Hawking has "since" refined it.  And what paradoxes are implied by the existence of God?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:20, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
    
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==Logical fallacy==
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