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:: That's good, and I'm impressed.  But does your physics teacher describe where  modern scientific theories have been proven wrong, such as the [[Origin of the Moon]] or the [[Piltdown Man]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: That's good, and I'm impressed.  But does your physics teacher describe where  modern scientific theories have been proven wrong, such as the [[Origin of the Moon]] or the [[Piltdown Man]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: My physics teacher hasn't mentioned that, but my biology teacher talked about the origins of the moon theory once. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: My physics teacher hasn't mentioned that, but my biology teacher talked about the origins of the moon theory once. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: Well ... what did he say about the [[Origin of the Moon]]???  Doesn't sound like he taught he truth, or you would probably would have remembered it better.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
    
* compulsive profanity  
 
* compulsive profanity  
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:: Causes are confusion, deprivation of [[faith]], and constantly being taught falsehoods.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: Causes are confusion, deprivation of [[faith]], and constantly being taught falsehoods.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: The only thing I can think of would be anxiety over tests or other related stress like that. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: The only thing I can think of would be anxiety over tests or other related stress like that. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: Perhaps 10% of your class is regularly taking drugs, legal and illegal, for anxiety, and it's not due to tests.  Your comment seems a bit out of touch.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
    
* feeling that it is funny to be dumb  
 
* feeling that it is funny to be dumb  
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::: For criticism of school prayer see below. In U.S. History we discussed the gay rights movement, and our (liberal) teacher criticized the violence of the Stonewall riots in comparison to the peaceful Civil Rights movement of Martin Luther King, but was also empathetic to the fact that gays were being arrested and subject to police brutality. Out teacher had criticized both sides of the abortion issue and has even used it to draw a comparison to the conflict over abolitionism. But I remember that he talked about people who are supposedly "pro-life", yet bomb abortion clinics. I have a hunch that he is not in favor of abortion, though, because he is very critical of the promiscuity today and has credited abortion to helping the increase of it. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: For criticism of school prayer see below. In U.S. History we discussed the gay rights movement, and our (liberal) teacher criticized the violence of the Stonewall riots in comparison to the peaceful Civil Rights movement of Martin Luther King, but was also empathetic to the fact that gays were being arrested and subject to police brutality. Out teacher had criticized both sides of the abortion issue and has even used it to draw a comparison to the conflict over abolitionism. But I remember that he talked about people who are supposedly "pro-life", yet bomb abortion clinics. I have a hunch that he is not in favor of abortion, though, because he is very critical of the promiscuity today and has credited abortion to helping the increase of it. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: Your comment does not address or rebut any of my three points.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
    
* lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal  
 
* lack of awareness that prayer is censored in public schools and that teachers' unions are very liberal  
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:::Actually when I wrote that I was referring to something I had written on the top of my post, but I ended up deleting it, so it makes no sense now. We know that we are allowed to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. Our U.S. History class debated this and we generally agreed that forced prayer violates freedom of religion. We also talked about some cases where teachers have jumped the gun and censored students while praying nondisruptively and decided that they had no right to do that. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::Actually when I wrote that I was referring to something I had written on the top of my post, but I ended up deleting it, so it makes no sense now. We know that we are allowed to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. Our U.S. History class debated this and we generally agreed that forced prayer violates freedom of religion. We also talked about some cases where teachers have jumped the gun and censored students while praying nondisruptively and decided that they had no right to do that. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: You're in denial.  You haven't heard voluntary classroom prayer once during all your years in [[public school]].  Try it with some friends and ask to start a class with a voluntary prayer, and watch what happens.  You'll be censored, if not disciplined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
    
* alcohol and drug abuse  
 
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:: It's more in [[public school]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: It's more in [[public school]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I'm sure it is, but teachers never lose control over the classrooms, so it is not really a huge problem. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I'm sure it is, but teachers never lose control over the classrooms, so it is not really a huge problem. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: No one said that teachers lose control over the classrooms, but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem.  It's demoralizing and degrading.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
    
* bullying  
 
* bullying  
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:: Rest assured that gang activity is a huge problem in some areas.  Do you live in a wealthy suburb?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: Rest assured that gang activity is a huge problem in some areas.  Do you live in a wealthy suburb?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: I live in a middle-class suburb, so gang are never really a problem. My point is, though, that the gangs aren't caused by the school, gang activity just spills into it.'''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::: I live in a middle-class suburb, so gang are never really a problem. My point is, though, that the gangs aren't caused by the school, gang activity just spills into it.'''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: I don't think you realize what goes on in less wealthy [[public schools]].  Do you have metal detectors in your school?  Many do, but it doesn't sound like yours does.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
    
That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
That is just a summary of my experience in the public school system. I think that it shows that a lot of the points are just presumed and don't really reflect a majority of public schoolers. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::My problem with this article is that it is stereotyping'''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::My problem with this article is that it is stereotyping'''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::: It's not stereotyping to describe a culture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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