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| | ''She'' explained it, but it was like 3 years ago and I don't really remember much about it. I read the article on here about it and it was essentially the same idea from what I remember. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | ''She'' explained it, but it was like 3 years ago and I don't really remember much about it. I read the article on here about it and it was essentially the same idea from what I remember. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | : As I said, had ''she'' told the truth about it, you would have likely remembered. As it stands, what she said was meaningless because you don't recall it. She might as well said nothing.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | There really isn't much drug use at our school, and it is pretty looked down upon. We have had a lot of education regarding this and most people stay away from it. But I guess for anxiety I am a bit out of touch because it seems like the people who have these problems don't really want to talk about it. I don't think that this is somehow caused by public school though, I think that it is just youth in general. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | There really isn't much drug use at our school, and it is pretty looked down upon. We have had a lot of education regarding this and most people stay away from it. But I guess for anxiety I am a bit out of touch because it seems like the people who have these problems don't really want to talk about it. I don't think that this is somehow caused by public school though, I think that it is just youth in general. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | : I'm confident there is more drug use -- legal and illegal -- than you realize at your school.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | It does address your points because I was giving examples of how one of my teachers talked about those issues. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | It does address your points because I was giving examples of how one of my teachers talked about those issues. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | : No you didn't. You didn't mention (i) criticism of the censorship of classroom prayer, or (ii) of the [[gay agenda]], or (iii) of the [[abortion]] industry. You talked about abortion, not criticism of the abortion industry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | Does prayer have to be out loud? There is nothing wrong with praying silently, I don't know what benefit there is from praying out loud. God still hears you the same. Again, we have the right to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. As one of my teachers said, "As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school". '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | Does prayer have to be out loud? There is nothing wrong with praying silently, I don't know what benefit there is from praying out loud. God still hears you the same. Again, we have the right to pray as long as it does not disrupt the class. As one of my teachers said, "As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school". '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | : Your comment here reflects the [[public school culture]] well. Yes, classroom prayer is censored but, no, teachers and students won't admit it. You've never once heard a single classroom prayer in all your years in public school, and won't try to say one with your classmates now. Rather than admit it, you insist that God doesn't want it! That's the [[public school culture]]: it censors and won't admit it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | My point is that gang activity isn't caused by public schools or somehow unique to them. Gang activity is usually caused by poverty, where parents can't afford to send their kids to private schools or have the education or time to homeschool them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> | | My point is that gang activity isn't caused by public schools or somehow unique to them. Gang activity is usually caused by poverty, where parents can't afford to send their kids to private schools or have the education or time to homeschool them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> |
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| | + | : I appreciate your analysis, but gangs often form in school and terrorize kids there. In some areas children are even afraid to go to [[public school]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | It is, because you are describing a small minority of teenagers and implying that everyone who goes to public school is just like them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) | | It is, because you are describing a small minority of teenagers and implying that everyone who goes to public school is just like them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:FernoKlump|<font color="#bd2433" >Leave me a death threat!!]]</font></sup> 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | : It's a culture that censors and denies it is censoring, to give just one example. It's not just a minority, but rather a large majority. Observations about culture are not stereotyping, but important to understand what happens in that culture. Much of history class is spent learning about past cultures.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT) |