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::Also, in regards to the McCain gaffes--it was important to make note of those gaffes, or at least as much as the notation of the gaffes that have been posted on the Obama article (i.e. referring to 57 states when he meant to say 47 states). --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:30, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
::Also, in regards to the McCain gaffes--it was important to make note of those gaffes, or at least as much as the notation of the gaffes that have been posted on the Obama article (i.e. referring to 57 states when he meant to say 47 states). --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:30, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
:::Do you agree that "I will veto every single beer...er, bill" does not belong in an encyclopedia? I do agree with you that much of what is in the Obama lead does not belong there, though it probably does belong in the article itself. Here is the problem with the Obama article: much of it was written by this sites owner. The best thing to do would be to (politely) bring up the status of the lead on the talk page. I'm sure other editors (hint, hint) would support you. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 14:39, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
:::Do you agree that "I will veto every single beer...er, bill" does not belong in an encyclopedia? I do agree with you that much of what is in the Obama lead does not belong there, though it probably does belong in the article itself. Here is the problem with the Obama article: much of it was written by this sites owner. The best thing to do would be to (politely) bring up the status of the lead on the talk page. I'm sure other editors (hint, hint) would support you. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 14:39, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
::::I think the line belongs in there slightly more than the conspiracy theory that Obama stating "57 states" was a reference to the number of Islamic states worldwide. More importantly, though, I think the quote belongs in that it is part of a larger theme of the problems of McCain's speaking style--i.e. tends to make gaffes. Is it a make-or-break line? No, and you can remove it. But I think that he does have trouble reading from teleprompters that has been noted in a number of media outlets---conservative included---and is an important part of image-heavy presidential elections in this day and age of soundbites and "gotcha" politics. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:44, 12 June 2008 (EDT)