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Talk:Essay:A Challenge to Creationists (view source)
Revision as of 18:11, June 17, 2008
, 18:11, June 17, 2008→Very well, I will explain why the burden of proof is on creationism.
:::::If there is a God who is by definition perfect, he is then perfectly beautiful. Taking that he is perfectly beautiful, and being the first cause, he is then the standard for what beauty should be. Anything that is not beautiful in his eyes does not have true beauty. So yes, there is a true and a false kind of beauty. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 12:48, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
:::::If there is a God who is by definition perfect, he is then perfectly beautiful. Taking that he is perfectly beautiful, and being the first cause, he is then the standard for what beauty should be. Anything that is not beautiful in his eyes does not have true beauty. So yes, there is a true and a false kind of beauty. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 12:48, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
No, that is NOT necessarily so. You just said at the beginning "if there is a god". This is NOT proven, so your conclusion is in no position to be stated as fact.
See, this is exactly why I don't believe in God. It's too contradictory that an all powerful and loving God would be such a pompous and arrogant jerk, telling people "you're irredeemably ugly. It's not my opinion, it's fact." You say god is perfect, that he decides what's right and what's wrong, but this just boils down to might makes right. You say he's the ultimate might, so therefore he's the ultimate right.
Christianity to me with the whole "be good or go to hell" thing looks like an elaborate scare tactic, like the boogeyman story that parents used to tell their children to keep them in line, while severely messing them up in the process. You tell people to belive in what's "right" and not to do what's "wrong", and convince the gullible that an all powerful and loving god will condemn you to hell for an eternity if you so much as set a toe out of line. It's deceitful. If God exists, and he truly hated Homosexuals, why does he condemn them instead of just getting rid of gay thoughts? If he can do anything, why did he have to DROWN the world to start over? Why couldn't he just purify them?
I on the other hand, am an Atheist. I have no god governing me. And somehow, even without this COMPLETELY NECESSARY threat hanging over my head, I do not rape children, or eat kittens, or even steal. I may not be perfect, but to suggest that Atheists are immoral because they have no god is the most cynical and insulting statement one can possibly say about the human race.
I understand this isn't quite what you said, but it eventually led to it, so while I do not necessarily direct this to you, Ymmtrojam, I certainly direct it at a few of the members of this site. Thanks, and Lightspeed.--[[User:JackSmith|JackSmith]] 14:11, 17 June 2008 (EDT)