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::: Aaronp, either you're naive or you're engaging in bullying if you maintain that Lenski plans to release his raw data soon for independent, public review.  I asked him last Friday to release it, and his reply declined to do so.  I asked him again yesterday, and he predictably has not replied.  It now seems to me to be likely that the peer reviewers for his paper did not even see the raw data.  I think it's likely that only Lenski and his grad student have seen the raw data underlying that paper (note its footnote).  Don't pretend that Lenski welcomes independent review of the data.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:15, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::: Aaronp, either you're naive or you're engaging in bullying if you maintain that Lenski plans to release his raw data soon for independent, public review.  I asked him last Friday to release it, and his reply declined to do so.  I asked him again yesterday, and he predictably has not replied.  It now seems to me to be likely that the peer reviewers for his paper did not even see the raw data.  I think it's likely that only Lenski and his grad student have seen the raw data underlying that paper (note its footnote).  Don't pretend that Lenski welcomes independent review of the data.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:15, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
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:::: My understanding is that peer reviewers do not normally see raw data. Absent reason to believe otherwise, they assume data is correctly reported in the submitted paper. But I could be wrong about this. Why do you think reviewers would normally be shown raw data? Also, I do not have a good idea what the data would look like? Do you have an opinion of what it looks like and what form it is in? -divaricatum 13:04, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

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