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Conservapedia talk:Lenski dialog (view source)
Revision as of 22:48, June 24, 2008
, 22:48, June 24, 2008→Reply to Lenski's second-last paragraph: Insult upon insult - typical @#($ scientist!
:He wasn't talking about Creationism (specifically Young Earth Creationism) though, Philip. As you are aware, many Christians, possibly the majority, reject YEC and use very similar arguments that Lenski iterated, i.e. that evolution and Christianity are not mutually exclusive and it is presumptuous of any of us to claim knowledge of how precisely God created the universe. Of course, that's the core disagreement between YEC and more theistic evolution positions. You would expect an evolutionary biologist to side with the latter in his appreciation and understanding of Christianity. [[User:Ajkgordon|Ajkgordon]] 11:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
:He wasn't talking about Creationism (specifically Young Earth Creationism) though, Philip. As you are aware, many Christians, possibly the majority, reject YEC and use very similar arguments that Lenski iterated, i.e. that evolution and Christianity are not mutually exclusive and it is presumptuous of any of us to claim knowledge of how precisely God created the universe. Of course, that's the core disagreement between YEC and more theistic evolution positions. You would expect an evolutionary biologist to side with the latter in his appreciation and understanding of Christianity. [[User:Ajkgordon|Ajkgordon]] 11:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
:Just to clarify - I'm not deliberately arguing, just pointing out what I understood to be his position on that bit. I agree wholeheartedly with your other sentiments. [[User:Ajkgordon|Ajkgordon]] 12:01, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
:Just to clarify - I'm not deliberately arguing, just pointing out what I understood to be his position on that bit. I agree wholeheartedly with your other sentiments. [[User:Ajkgordon|Ajkgordon]] 12:01, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
::Reading past all the deliberate insults the scientists tossed, we come to the claim that "God created living things via evolution". Taking a stab at [[theistic evolution]], the scientist twists the knife by speculating that God would use set in motion some sort of blind watchmaker mechanism to create everything.
::As Philip indicated, this is so obviously incompatible with YE Creationism that you have to wonder how stupid the scientists thinks our readers are. And even OE Creationism (the only major kind left to consider) '''specifically''' posits that God intervened creatively.
::So, once again, the scientists has made assertions without giving adequate explanation. Everything is either assumed to have been "already explained" or is embargoed information (so he and has colleagues can take credit). If I may use a Jewish expression, God forbid he should every give us a straight answer! --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 18:48, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
==Fair Warning==
==Fair Warning==