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Talk:Flaws in Richard Lenski Study (view source)
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, 22:52, July 14, 2008→Richard Lenski incorrectly included generations of the E. coli already known to contain Cit+ variants in his experiments.[3] Once these generations are removed from the analysis, the data disprove Len
: Your explanation is not convincing. Show us how Lenski proved that the samples did not have '''any''' Cit<sup>+</sup> variants, if you really think he's claiming that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:51, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
: Your explanation is not convincing. Show us how Lenski proved that the samples did not have '''any''' Cit<sup>+</sup> variants, if you really think he's claiming that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:51, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
::I count at least four distinct diagnostic methods used in the paper for distinguishing whether clones are Cit+. One in particular they describe as being very sensitive to weakly citrate-using cells.
::I count at least four distinct diagnostic methods used in the paper for distinguishing whether clones are Cit+. One in particular they describe as being very sensitive to weakly citrate-using cells. It's not that I 'think' Blount et al. claim they started with Cit- cells. They say that in the 'Supporting information' document.
::Andy, for tonight, I'll leave it as an exercise for you to answer your own question of how one might test a colony to be sure that is was Cit-. Use the paper if you'd like or present another means. Tomorrow evening I'll cite the methods Blount used in the paper.
::Andy, for tonight, I'll leave it as an exercise for you to answer your own question of how one might test a colony to be sure that is was Cit-. Use the paper if you'd like or present another means. Tomorrow evening I'll cite the methods Blount used in the paper.