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New page: ==Count vs. Graf== If you prefer the English titles, the name should be ''Helmuth James count von Moltke'', not ''count Helmuth James von Moltke'': Since 1918, Graf (count) is a part of t...
==Count vs. Graf==
If you prefer the English titles, the name should be ''Helmuth James count von Moltke'', not ''count Helmuth James von Moltke'': Since 1918, Graf (count) is a part of the name in Germany, and not longer a title. So, while he was born as ''Graf James v. Moltke'', the name became ''James Graf v. Moltke'' after the Great War. --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 17:10, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
If you prefer the English titles, the name should be ''Helmuth James count von Moltke'', not ''count Helmuth James von Moltke'': Since 1918, Graf (count) is a part of the name in Germany, and not longer a title. So, while he was born as ''Graf James v. Moltke'', the name became ''James Graf v. Moltke'' after the Great War. --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 17:10, 17 August 2008 (EDT)