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Talk:Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (view source)
Revision as of 01:06, August 22, 2008
, 01:06, August 22, 2008→About the viewer reception
:Good points, Philip. I'd suggest stating that online reviews of controversial films are unreliable because there's no way to accurately filter out the ideologically-driven votes of non-viewers from viewers, and leave it at that. The more meaningful measure in cases like this are the box office receipts and DVD sales, which are more objective and correlate with interest/demand. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:03, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
:Good points, Philip. I'd suggest stating that online reviews of controversial films are unreliable because there's no way to accurately filter out the ideologically-driven votes of non-viewers from viewers, and leave it at that. The more meaningful measure in cases like this are the box office receipts and DVD sales, which are more objective and correlate with interest/demand. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:03, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
:: I think that the figures provide ''some'' idea of what people think, so I'd prefer to include the figures (with warnings about them being skewed), but leave the analysis of them up to the reader. Your point about the box office and DVD receipts is valid. Of course, we already have that in the article, but perhaps we should combine the ''Box Office Reception'' and ''Viewer Reception'' sections into one (simply by changing the first heading and removing the second) so that the voting part is read in the context of the box office part. (This is ''not'' to suggest that we don't also modify the paragraph about the IMBD votes.) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:37, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
:: I think that the figures provide ''some'' idea of what people think, so I'd prefer to include the figures (with warnings about them being skewed), but leave the analysis of them up to the reader. Your point about the box office and DVD receipts is valid. Of course, we already have that in the article, but perhaps we should combine the ''Box Office Reception'' and ''Viewer Reception'' sections into one (simply by changing the first heading and removing the second) so that the voting part is read in the context of the box office part. (This is ''not'' to suggest that we don't also modify the paragraph about the IMBD votes.) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:37, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
Gentlemen, we do not reward people's efforts to trash a movie by accepting their trashing and only reporting that the numbers are skewed. We seek to report how people who saw the movie viewed it. Philip, I would suggest familiarizing yourself with rating trends on the IMDB site. You may wish to look below at Jinxmchue's findings of ongoing 'ballot box' stuffing as we speak. That we are seeking a 'compromise' in this area to find a way to allow any of it to stand is very distasteful. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 21:06, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
== Expelled now on Amazon. PZ gets his fans to flood item with phony 1-star reviews. ==
== Expelled now on Amazon. PZ gets his fans to flood item with phony 1-star reviews. ==