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Gentlemen, we do not reward people's efforts to trash a movie by accepting their trashing and only reporting that the numbers are skewed.  We seek to report how people who saw the movie viewed it.  Philip, I would suggest familiarizing yourself with rating trends on the IMDB site.  You may wish to look below at Jinxmchue's findings of ongoing 'ballot box' stuffing as we speak.  That we are seeking a 'compromise' in this area to find a way to allow any of it to stand is very distasteful. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 21:06, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 
Gentlemen, we do not reward people's efforts to trash a movie by accepting their trashing and only reporting that the numbers are skewed.  We seek to report how people who saw the movie viewed it.  Philip, I would suggest familiarizing yourself with rating trends on the IMDB site.  You may wish to look below at Jinxmchue's findings of ongoing 'ballot box' stuffing as we speak.  That we are seeking a 'compromise' in this area to find a way to allow any of it to stand is very distasteful. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 21:06, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
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:I believe we have common goals, and just have to agree on meaningful measures.  Since people can vote on IMDB whether they've seen a movie or not, and there's no way to precisely know which reviews saw a movie and which ones didn't, it's not a trustworthy source for an encyclopedia article (unless the purpose is to show how polarized the opinions were).  We should drop the IMDB rating altogether from this article.  The box office numbers are better because they are not subject to interpretation - people may have hated the film and walked out, but they had enough interest to buy a ticket and show up. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 21:42, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
    
== Expelled now on Amazon.  PZ gets his fans to flood item with phony 1-star reviews. ==
 
== Expelled now on Amazon.  PZ gets his fans to flood item with phony 1-star reviews. ==
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