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::::Sysops monitor articles and talk sections for compliance with Conservapedia standards.  As someone intimately familiar with the article, Andy made the call that certain discussions on the talk page did not advance an understanding of the article.  While it is less common decision than alterations to the article itself, it is certainly within the scope of responsibilities.  Non-sysops are not allowed to alter talk page content except in the case of reverting vandalism.  Dinsdale's difficulties were not related to the PNAS article, but rather were tied to another area of the site. Hope this helps. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:47, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 
::::Sysops monitor articles and talk sections for compliance with Conservapedia standards.  As someone intimately familiar with the article, Andy made the call that certain discussions on the talk page did not advance an understanding of the article.  While it is less common decision than alterations to the article itself, it is certainly within the scope of responsibilities.  Non-sysops are not allowed to alter talk page content except in the case of reverting vandalism.  Dinsdale's difficulties were not related to the PNAS article, but rather were tied to another area of the site. Hope this helps. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:47, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::''"...Andy made the call that certain discussions on the talk page did not advance an understanding of the article..."''In other words, he's doing what he wants, censoring anyone who disagrees with him specifically. Although you can't just admit it, it's too obvious. I wonder what deemed you to respond to this when my request for arbitration section right above was ignored, and removed, by you. The problem with that talk page is that he will only allow one side of the story (his own) to show, and that won't improve any further action he does or does not take due to the fact that there is no criticism questioning him. The kind of leaders who only had yes men agreeing with them without dissent were defeated in WWII. [[User:SamuelHTD|Sam]] 20:31, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::''"...Andy made the call that certain discussions on the talk page did not advance an understanding of the article..."''In other words, he's doing what he wants, censoring anyone who disagrees with him specifically. Although you can't just admit it, it's too obvious. I wonder what deemed you to respond to this when my request for arbitration section right above was ignored, and removed, by you. The problem with that talk page is that he will only allow one side of the story (his own) to show, and that won't improve any further action he does or does not take due to the fact that there is no criticism questioning him. The kind of leaders who only had yes men agreeing with them without dissent were defeated in WWII. [[User:SamuelHTD|Sam]] 20:31, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
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::::::The problem with this is that while I can understand that CP wants to closely monitor and censor its article pages, if that rule is now extended to the Talk pages, then the Talk pages themsleves need Talk pages, which is why we're here.  The famously 'locked for over a year' Evolution article has of course been attacked from many sides, and while the article remains locked under the conservatorship of one sysop, the Talk page is long - very long - and features very heated disagreements over the entire topic and article contents.  But at least the dialog was had.  The fact that this is not allowed of the PNAS letter page seems to mean the rules are 'pick and choose' by whoever wants to do so.  And that's not a system, and without a system, you really have nothing but anarchy.  [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 20:52, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
    
==Bugler, and Everyone Else Who Ignores==
 
==Bugler, and Everyone Else Who Ignores==
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