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:What exactly does one have to do to become a "name" actor? Making millions for each movie and being a household name doesn't seem to do it, so what does? I'll admit Gyllenhall was not a huge name in the industry (but he was hardly a no-name the way some actors are in their first big pictures) but to call Ledger that is downright silly. And why was their decision ill-advised? Because it made Gyllenhall much more prominent? Because Ledger was nominated for an Oscar for his role? Yeah, bad decision. Or are you trying to tie Ledger's death to this movie (if so, you'd need to come up with something specific)? The final paragraph makes the author seem plain ignorant of the subject. [[User:DavidH|DavidH]] 12:51, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
:What exactly does one have to do to become a "name" actor? Making millions for each movie and being a household name doesn't seem to do it, so what does? I'll admit Gyllenhall was not a huge name in the industry (but he was hardly a no-name the way some actors are in their first big pictures) but to call Ledger that is downright silly. And why was their decision ill-advised? Because it made Gyllenhall much more prominent? Because Ledger was nominated for an Oscar for his role? Yeah, bad decision. Or are you trying to tie Ledger's death to this movie (if so, you'd need to come up with something specific)? The final paragraph makes the author seem plain ignorant of the subject. [[User:DavidH|DavidH]] 12:51, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
::I don't understand the "teen crush" comment. ''Ten Things I Hate About You'' was a very popular movie and it made him very well-known, which would be a "name" actor, right? And ''Donnie Darko'' is also a very well-known and beloved movie (though I've never seen it), which would make Gyllenhall a "name" actor, too, right? It may be ill-advised, I can't claim to know that. However, I know almost nothing about this movie - I didn't even know it was Ledger and Gyllenhall who were in it. But not knowing this movie and still knowing the actors says something about their degree of fame, doesn't it? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 13:01, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
::I don't understand the "teen crush" comment. ''Ten Things I Hate About You'' was a very popular movie and it made him very well-known, which would be a "name" actor, right? And ''Donnie Darko'' is also a very well-known and beloved movie (though I've never seen it), which would make Gyllenhall a "name" actor, too, right? It may be ill-advised, I can't claim to know that. However, I know almost nothing about this movie - I didn't even know it was Ledger and Gyllenhall who were in it. But not knowing this movie and still knowing the actors says something about their degree of fame, doesn't it? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 13:01, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
:::Ok, let's start with what we can all agree upon: all articles must follow the Commandments. If you haven't seen a movie, then anything you say ''about'' the movie should at least be sourced, right?
:::As for the "no name" part: again, personal experience isn't enough here. I once told my mom that Elvis couldn't be famous, because I had never heard of him. Both of these actors were in movies before Brokeback that did pretty well and are still popular today (and before anyone says anything: they were popular before Ledger died, as well). They clearly don't have the acting experience of Tom Hanks or Roberd DeNiro, but they are far from "no name".
:::As I haven't seen the movie myself, I won't remove anything from the article, but it clearly needs work from someone who has reliable sources, prefereably one who has seen it themselves, so they can attest to the reliability. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:14, 7 October 2008 (EDT)