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:::::JPatt, that was not me making any claims about your gender. Those words were entirely Hsmom's, with my name linked to in the middle of it all, making it seem like a sig. I've removed the wiki markup to avoid any future confusion. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 12:53, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

:::::JPatt, that was not me making any claims about your gender. Those words were entirely Hsmom's, with my name linked to in the middle of it all, making it seem like a sig. I've removed the wiki markup to avoid any future confusion. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 12:53, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

:::::Foxtrot, I apologize for my poor attempt at humor, I didn't really care and the following posters corrected my wrong accusation. I have seen your edits, you are a good man.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''^{[[User:Jpatt|  ]]} 13:02, 8 October 2008 (EDT)  

:::::Foxtrot, I apologize for my poor attempt at humor, I didn't really care and the following posters corrected my wrong accusation. I have seen your edits, you are a good man.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''^{[[User:Jpatt|  ]]} 13:02, 8 October 2008 (EDT)  

I'll expand my comments here, rather than engage in an edit war.  As noted above, I have actually seen the movie. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 15:19, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

I'll expand my comments here, rather than engage in an edit war.  As noted above, I have actually seen the movie. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 15:19, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

::You also claimed there were no other bankable young stars at the time. Hmm.... Freddie Prinze Jr made $72 million off a $17 million movie (I Know What You Did Last Summer) and another $40 million squeezed out of a sequel (did Ledger or Ghylenhaal have any sequels?). She's All That was a $63 million movie from a $10 million budget. In the early 2000s he was a very bankable star (where he's gone since then is another matter...) Another example is Ryan Phillippe: $38 million off an $11 million movie with Cruel Intentions. These actors reliably produced big profit margins, making them stars. DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, etc got their names known through major awards. But before Brokeback, neither Ledger nor Gyllenhaal had any real claims to fame. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 12:35, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

::You also claimed there were no other bankable young stars at the time. Hmm.... Freddie Prinze Jr made $72 million off a $17 million movie (I Know What You Did Last Summer) and another $40 million squeezed out of a sequel (did Ledger or Ghylenhaal have any sequels?). She's All That was a $63 million movie from a $10 million budget. In the early 2000s he was a very bankable star (where he's gone since then is another matter...) Another example is Ryan Phillippe: $38 million off an $11 million movie with Cruel Intentions. These actors reliably produced big profit margins, making them stars. DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, etc got their names known through major awards. But before Brokeback, neither Ledger nor Gyllenhaal had any real claims to fame. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 12:35, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

:::If he was a "teen crush of the month" then he can't, ''by definition'' be a "no-name" -- enough people knew his name that he won a ''popularity contest''. Why don't we just say "lesser-known", since everyone's already agreed to that, and just let this drop so we can move on to the four other fact tags? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

:::If he was a "teen crush of the month" then he can't, ''by definition'' be a "no-name" -- enough people knew his name that he won a ''popularity contest''. Why don't we just say "lesser-known", since everyone's already agreed to that, and just let this drop so we can move on to the four other fact tags? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)