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Talk:Brokeback Mountain (view source)
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Again, confused why there's a cite tag after "festooning". Are you denying that these awards were given to the movie? Don't these awards signify a major acceptance of the film by Hollywood? -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 13:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
Again, confused why there's a cite tag after "festooning". Are you denying that these awards were given to the movie? Don't these awards signify a major acceptance of the film by Hollywood? -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 13:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
:To "Festoon" literally means to hang a decoration between two points. I'm taking it figuratively to mean that the awards were just decorations used to make the movie look better. If I interpreted the wording correctly, we need some sources for that, since awards are given largely for merit. (Yes, I know there are politics involved, but you won't see a truly bad movie win out for political reasons. Well, except maybe ''Crash''...) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:31, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
:To "Festoon" literally means to hang a decoration between two points. I'm taking it figuratively to mean that the awards were just decorations used to make the movie look better. If I interpreted the wording correctly, we need some sources for that, since awards are given largely for merit. (Yes, I know there are politics involved, but you won't see a truly bad movie win out for political reasons. Well, except maybe ''Crash''...) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:31, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
==Admonishment==
I think that the admonishment people get for not having seen the movie is pretty clear, it's even creeping up here in the talk page. But here's some examples:
* From [[Bill O'Reilly]]'s transcript<ref>http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.movies.current-films/2006-02/msg01298.html</ref> where he discusses Brokeback Mountain: "I haven't seen the movie because the lead actors play bisexual shepherds and, please forgive me, that isn't on top of my viewing wish list. I understand I'm a barbarian." I think it's pretty clearly implied that he has received or at least expects to receive admonishment for openly not wanting to see the movie.
* From Right Wing News<ref>http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2006_01_22.PHP</ref> (scroll down to the section on Brokeback Mountain, 2/3 of the way down): "Let me interject a little reality into the tsunami of ballyhoo that surrounds Brokeback Mountain. Let me take just a moment to counter the overbearing wave of condescending media hucksters and Hollywood high pressure salesmen that have almost been berating the public into watching this film."
* A whole op-ed in the New York Times defending why someone wouldn't want to see the movie and all the veried criticism he expects to get for it.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/01/opinion/01david.html</ref>
* Plenty of examples on blogs, forums and comments on news articles. Example:"And I still won't see Brokeback Mountain. No matter how much it p***es off you people off that I won't see it."<ref>http://www.mcnblogs.com/thehotblog/archives/2006/01/the_thin_world.html</ref>
I hope that's enough citations, though I would have thought the public atmosphere around the movie would have been tangible enough to know that people were getting pressured into seeing it and chastised for holding their ground to not see it. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 13:42, 8 October 2008 (EDT)