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:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 03:52, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 03:52, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I agree with [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] that there should be standards that Conservapedia is striving for.  As to the birth/death date, I like the proposed suggestion (putting aside the issue of a fact box of some kind).  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:58, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I agree with [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] that there should be standards that Conservapedia is striving for.  As to the birth/death date, I like the proposed suggestion (putting aside the issue of a fact box of some kind).  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:58, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
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::::Using just years rather than full dates is neater, more concise, and helps smooth over problems of uncertain dates. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:13, 16 October 2008 (EDT) (1961-)
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==References==
 
==References==
 
:I would also like us to agree on a standard for references.  Too many articles include only the URL of a reference.  If that page is moved, we are left with no idea where the information came from.  (I've been coming across this quite a bit - I'm the sort of person who actually reads the references.)  If a full reference is provided, then the information can often be relocated and the URL updated.  In addition, a full reference gives much more information at a glance, and writing it to some extent forces the writer to ask themselves "where is this fact actually coming from" before using/believing it.  Format would vary a bit based on the type of reference.  The MLA handbook suggests author's name, title of document, information about print publication (for example, if it is an article from a magazine), information about the web site (name of site, date updated), date of access, and URL.  That seems like a sensible approach to me.  Here's an example:
 
:I would also like us to agree on a standard for references.  Too many articles include only the URL of a reference.  If that page is moved, we are left with no idea where the information came from.  (I've been coming across this quite a bit - I'm the sort of person who actually reads the references.)  If a full reference is provided, then the information can often be relocated and the URL updated.  In addition, a full reference gives much more information at a glance, and writing it to some extent forces the writer to ask themselves "where is this fact actually coming from" before using/believing it.  Format would vary a bit based on the type of reference.  The MLA handbook suggests author's name, title of document, information about print publication (for example, if it is an article from a magazine), information about the web site (name of site, date updated), date of access, and URL.  That seems like a sensible approach to me.  Here's an example:
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