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Talk:Brokeback Mountain (view source)
Revision as of 18:45, October 19, 2008
, 18:45, October 19, 2008→Prolonged seclusion: Assorted thoughts.
::::Have you seen the movie yet? I thought we'd be getting the some plot details soon, but you've only edited one article since making this post. Hopefully after your watching that movie we haven't lost you to the "dark side"... -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 14:30, 18 October 2008 (EDT)
::::Have you seen the movie yet? I thought we'd be getting the some plot details soon, but you've only edited one article since making this post. Hopefully after your watching that movie we haven't lost you to the "dark side"... -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 14:30, 18 October 2008 (EDT)
I have seen the movie. Let's be clear up front that this is not a movie where everyone goes around talking about their feelings, and there is a lot that implies that the characters themselves often don't know WHAT to feel about what's going on. Here's my input on this paragraph:
* ''Brokeback Mountain is a movie from 2005 by Ang Lee about two male cowboys who fail to deal with their hormonal urges in a time of prolonged seclusion from others (particularly from females).'' As [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] says, the article implies that the relationship came to be solely because of the absence of women. I would argue that this is a pretty weak interpretation of the movie. There's nothing I remember in the movie about them "failing to deal with their hormonal urges". They are only on the mountain for a summer - frankly, most heterosexual men I know would need a LOT longer than that before entering into such a relationship. My sense from seeing the movie is that the men themselves have very mixed emotions about the relationship, and the movie does not provide us with an explanation for the beginning of their relationship.
* ''Afterwards, they come to their senses and marry beautiful, dedicated and loving women.'' They do marry. However, I did not get an impression of "coming to their senses". They both seem pretty conflicted about their marriages. Did they marry simply because they were expected to? Did they love their wives? The movie doesn't explicitly tell us.
*''However soon their past comes to haunt them and destroys not only their lives but the innocent lives of their wives and children.'' This is actually pretty accurate, though I would argue that it's not their past that haunts them, but rather their ongoing relationship. My impression was that each of them is in love with the other, not with their wife, more-or-less from the beginning.
*''Audiences witness the families torn asunder in waves of agonizing revelations,'' This describes the movie's style quite well.
*''all stemming from a secret around "fishing" trips where the men once again use their seclusion to its "ends".'' This sounds like something out of a '40's dime novel. It also implies that their relationship is solely physical, but it is portrayed very much as a romance. If you take the romance out of it, you end up with a completely different story.
Some movies can be summarized pretty well without seeing them - Wizard of Oz comes to mind: ''"and your little dog too!", tornado, house lands on bad witch, munchkins, good witch, yellow brick road, scarecrow, tinman, lion, emerald city, wizard, flying monkeys, man behind the curtain, balloon, there's no place like home.'' We could go into more detail, but the basics of the movie are pretty clear and most people will come out of it with the same story. Brokeback is not like that. It shows you what the characters do, and what they say, in little glimpses of their lives over many years. It does not show you what they think, or feel - and that's why many people had quite different interpretations, and probably to some extent why there was such a buzz around the movie. I can see how people who've seen it would want to sit down with someone else and sort out what they think happened - which would also account for people who hadn't seen it feeling somewhat pressured to do so. So again, this movie does not lend itself to an accurate summary from someone who hasn't seen it.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 14:45, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
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