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Talk:Essay:Rules of Chivalry for Students (view source)
Revision as of 15:15, October 31, 2008
, 15:15, October 31, 2008→Reactionary to the Point of Absurdity: Not obvious to me, and these are /examples/, not /rules/
::::: I'm starting to wonder if you really have any involvement in a church group, given your response. The answer to your question about chivalry and dating is too obvious to spell out. I will observe that dating requires the consent of ''both'' parties.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:42, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
::::: I'm starting to wonder if you really have any involvement in a church group, given your response. The answer to your question about chivalry and dating is too obvious to spell out. I will observe that dating requires the consent of ''both'' parties.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:42, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
::::: The answer to his question is not obvious to me, beyond a very broad generalisation. That is, whether or not he dates a girl from his youth group will depend on him and the girl (including her consent), not on whether the group as a whole has or lacks chivalry. And why would his comments cause you to doubt his involvement in a church group? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:15, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
::::: While I'm here, I'll add some other thoughts. This essay has always bothered me, but I haven't been able to pin down exactly why. But I think I've just realised. When growing up I was lacking many of the societal norms (and I'm not here referring to secular vs. Christian), and wished that people had given me more advice such as in this essay sooner (and gentler) than they did. The problem is that these are very specific ''examples'' (e.g. baking biscuits (sorry, "cookies")), but they are presented as ''rules''. The ''rule'' is that you should be chivalrous. The essay points are merely ''examples'' on how to do that. And of course most of these apply equally to both sexes anyway (e.g. both males and females should pay compliments to both males and females, not just boys to girls). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:15, 31 October 2008 (EDT)