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→Ema: I tend to agree with Jpatt.
:::::::::I did mean embryonic. To be fair, he only wants funding on embryos that are going to be discarded anyway -- I don't know if pro-lifers are ok with that. If I understand Jpatt's argument, he was trying to argue that no Christians can vote for Obama because he doesn't hold Christian values. Not only that, but he presented it as the only correct choice and anyone with a differing opinion doesn't have enough faith. I was trying to point out that Jesus is not running for president. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:39, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::::::I did mean embryonic. To be fair, he only wants funding on embryos that are going to be discarded anyway -- I don't know if pro-lifers are ok with that. If I understand Jpatt's argument, he was trying to argue that no Christians can vote for Obama because he doesn't hold Christian values. Not only that, but he presented it as the only correct choice and anyone with a differing opinion doesn't have enough faith. I was trying to point out that Jesus is not running for president. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:39, 3 November 2008 (EST)
:::::::::: Write-ins FTW!! [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 22:26, 3 November 2008 (EST) ''<-Jesus/Holy Ghost '08!''
:::::::::: Write-ins FTW!! [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 22:26, 3 November 2008 (EST) ''<-Jesus/Holy Ghost '08!''
:::::::::: Was it okay to experiment on the Jews who were going to the gas chambers in Nazi Germany because they were going to die anyway?
:::::::::: I tend to agree that Americans tie their religion too closely to their politics, but on the other hand, I can understand where he's probably coming from (although I should point out that I don't know what prompted the first post in this section). A Christian believes that God is the ultimate reality, and therefore that God's standards are more important than anything else more worldly. Therefore, in comparing two different candidates, the one that most closely follows God's standards is the one that Christians should vote for. That is, God's standards (such as on moral issues) are not just a minor consideration, but should be a major deciding factor. To that extent, I would agree with Jpatt. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:38, 3 November 2008 (EST)
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