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Line 1: − == Why must we be created by God == − − It seems that one of the most prominent creationist argument is if there exists a creation, there must also exist a creator. Makes perfect sense right? If there's a meal, there must be a cook to cook it. However, the cook is not a god so why must we be created by God? Why must we, an imperfect creation, be created by a perfect entity? Why is it not possible for us to be created by the Devil? Because the Bible said so? Who created the Bible? God? − − Also, if the cook produced the meal and God created the cook, what created God and what created the creator of God? − Line 359:
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: Thanks; I've fixed each of them. Without checking the history, though, I suspect just simple typos rather than "liberal" sabotage. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:29, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
: Thanks; I've fixed each of them. Without checking the history, though, I suspect just simple typos rather than "liberal" sabotage. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:29, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
== Why must we be created by God ==
It seems that one of the most prominent creationist argument is if there exists a creation, there must also exist a creator. Makes perfect sense right? If there's a meal, there must be a cook to cook it. However, the cook is not a god so why must we be created by God? Why must we, an imperfect creation, be created by a perfect entity? Why is it not possible for us to be created by the Devil? Because the Bible said so? Who created the Bible? God?
Also, if the cook produced the meal and God created the cook, what created God and what created the creator of God?
:Your first question (why it needs to be God) is answered by your second paragraph. It doesn't (logically) need to be God, but that then raises the question of who created the beings that created us. Ultimately, you will need to invoke someone that we would call "God". The devil is something that God created, so he can't be the ultimate creator. That is, if the devil was the ultimate creator, then the devil would actually be referred to as "God", not "the devil".
:You only need to explain the origin of something that had an origin. God exists outside of time; He had no beginning, so no explanation of His origin is needed.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:15, 5 November 2008 (EST)