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→Why must we be created by God
:You only need to explain the origin of something that had an origin. God exists outside of time; He had no beginning, so no explanation of His origin is needed.
:You only need to explain the origin of something that had an origin. God exists outside of time; He had no beginning, so no explanation of His origin is needed.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:15, 5 November 2008 (EST)
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:15, 5 November 2008 (EST)
::Perhaps I should reword my question then: "Is humanity the ''direct'' creation of the ultimate creator?". It is perfectly plausible for us to be the creation of a creation (e.g. the Devil). The idea that everything must be originated directly or indirect from the ultimate creator bring up the question of its perfection. If God is indeed perfect then shouldn't everything he do be perfect? If so, he should be perfect at creating a perfect creation. This creation then must be too capable of perfect creation, would it not?--[[User:Aixer|Aixer]] 22:26, 5 November 2008 (EST)