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→‎Nov 6 changes: I do not see what is "Ad Hom" about my remarks. You said something about the law. I pointed out how it was very obviously false.
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:::::Furthermore, once you lost an argument ("Did all four men beat him?") you changed the subject ("We can say they "beat" him if they watched him get beaten.") That's just a silly tactic. If you want to add to the article a cited accusation or a conviction for not doing enough to stop a beating, then please do so. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 15:16, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 
:::::Furthermore, once you lost an argument ("Did all four men beat him?") you changed the subject ("We can say they "beat" him if they watched him get beaten.") That's just a silly tactic. If you want to add to the article a cited accusation or a conviction for not doing enough to stop a beating, then please do so. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 15:16, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 
::::::I've tried to be very patient with you, but I am nearing the end of it.  If you want to debate substance of the article and my claims, I'll be happy to do so.  However, if you continue to engage in these Ad Hom attacks and childish mocking, I will be happy to engage you on your level.  As for what I said, it doesn't matter if I am a lawyer or not (for the record, I am not) As such, I will admit that I am mistaken... While there are several crimes in which bystanders can be charged, I can find no evidence of assualt and battery being one of them.  I know that I have heard that police officers can be dismissed for not interceding in police burtality cases, but I have not found anything concrete yet.  However, I will continue. [[User:SamuelA|SamuelA]] 15:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 
::::::I've tried to be very patient with you, but I am nearing the end of it.  If you want to debate substance of the article and my claims, I'll be happy to do so.  However, if you continue to engage in these Ad Hom attacks and childish mocking, I will be happy to engage you on your level.  As for what I said, it doesn't matter if I am a lawyer or not (for the record, I am not) As such, I will admit that I am mistaken... While there are several crimes in which bystanders can be charged, I can find no evidence of assualt and battery being one of them.  I know that I have heard that police officers can be dismissed for not interceding in police burtality cases, but I have not found anything concrete yet.  However, I will continue. [[User:SamuelA|SamuelA]] 15:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)
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I do not see what is "Ad Hom" about my remarks. You said something about the law. I pointed out how it was very obviously false. If that hurts your feelings, then you should avoid making assertions in fields about which you know little, such as criminal law.
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You have substantially improved this article. I hope you will continue to do so.
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One way might be to note if the officers who were not convicted were dismissed anyway. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 15:43, 6 November 2008 (EST)
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