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::You act as if direct personal knowledge is somehow inferior to reading something from the press.  Not everyone decides to call a press conference to draw attention to themselves, especially when it threatens the welfare of their families. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:31, 7 November 2008 (EST)

::You act as if direct personal knowledge is somehow inferior to reading something from the press.  Not everyone decides to call a press conference to draw attention to themselves, especially when it threatens the welfare of their families. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:31, 7 November 2008 (EST)

:::That works for you, Learn together, as you are a trusted sysop. I trust what you say. However a personal testimony needs to go through the same rigorous test that a regular citation does (or, rather, that a regular citation ''should''). There's nothing to stop someone from saying "well I was there and I can say that the protesters didn't break the law," and we'd be at a standstill. Perhaps this particular case isn't the best example, but I hope I've shown that using personal references in principle can have unwanted outcomes elsewhere on the site. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:43, 7 November 2008 (EST)

:::That works for you, Learn together, as you are a trusted sysop. I trust what you say. However a personal testimony needs to go through the same rigorous test that a regular citation does (or, rather, that a regular citation ''should''). There's nothing to stop someone from saying "well I was there and I can say that the protesters didn't break the law," and we'd be at a standstill. Perhaps this particular case isn't the best example, but I hope I've shown that using personal references in principle can have unwanted outcomes elsewhere on the site. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:43, 7 November 2008 (EST)