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:They do have the same rights. There may be minor differences in how one joins a marriage vs. a domestic partnership and it's easier to dissolve a domestic partnership, but a couple that has entered into a domestic partnership has the same rights as marriage.
:They do have the same rights. There may be minor differences in how one joins a marriage vs. a domestic partnership and it's easier to dissolve a domestic partnership, but a couple that has entered into a domestic partnership has the same rights as marriage.
:Also, I'm afraid I have difficulty with the addition of the gender neutral language. Marriage was defined as a man and woman; there was no need to use language that would define it as such when it was already understood. It was only changes in society that could alter the definition that caused the change in 1977 to clarify. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:54, 8 November 2008 (EST)
:Also, I'm afraid I have difficulty with the addition of the gender neutral language. Marriage was defined as a man and woman; there was no need to use language that would define it as such when it was already understood. It was only changes in society that could alter the definition that caused the change in 1977 to clarify. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:54, 8 November 2008 (EST)
::[[User:Learn together|Learn together]], my goal was to fill out the section a bit more, including some legislative action on both marriage and domestic partnerships. I think it will be interesting to see how things have changed over the years. I ran out of time yesterday to do more. (I want to be sure to get it right, so it will take some time, plus the darned "blank screen - don't know if your post took or not" problem was really bad, which slowed me down.) I think we can find some language that makes it clear that marriage has always been between a man and a woman in California, but that in 1977 they realized that this was simply understood, and not codified in the law, thus they changed it to prevent same-sex marriage challenges. The 1977 changes don't make sense unless we explain it was gender-neutral before that (though of course we have to make it clear that no one saw it that way back then, if you know what I mean.) I'm open to suggestions. Will address the rights point later - must get to the day's family activities. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:39, 8 November 2008 (EST)