:I don't have a cite for this, I was simply writing what I learned in a Catholic upbrining. If this isn't universal across Christianity, then please add in the variants. I had included a justification for the position in anticipation of that possibility. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 21:50, 14 November 2008 (EST) | :I don't have a cite for this, I was simply writing what I learned in a Catholic upbrining. If this isn't universal across Christianity, then please add in the variants. I had included a justification for the position in anticipation of that possibility. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 21:50, 14 November 2008 (EST) |