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::I don't have much wiki experience, but to time edits to disrupt with edit conflicts seems very far-fetched even in my "high" (sorry) state. There are much more effective ways to disrupt. But HelpJazz, why do you think that Bugler is disrupting? Maybe it's just an incomprehension between you? --[[User:Drunk|Drunk]] 16:00, 16 November 2008 (EST)

::I don't have much wiki experience, but to time edits to disrupt with edit conflicts seems very far-fetched even in my "high" (sorry) state. There are much more effective ways to disrupt. But HelpJazz, why do you think that Bugler is disrupting? Maybe it's just an incomprehension between you? --[[User:Drunk|Drunk]] 16:00, 16 November 2008 (EST)

::::(Ironically, an edit conflict) 1. Then there's really no point in having sysops, is there? As much as you whine about the "liberal whinging about every decisions", do you really want to assert that every time someone thinks another user is abusing their power, that person has no obligation to sumbit to the abuser's power? Or are you the only one who gets to decide when someone is abusing power?

::::(Ironically, an edit conflict) 1. Then there's really no point in having sysops, is there? As much as you whine about the "liberal whinging about every decisions", do you really want to assert that every time someone thinks another user is abusing their power, that person has no obligation to sumbit to the abuser's power? Or are you the only one who gets to decide when someone is abusing power?

:::::2. Free reign? Hardly. Had I wanted to give them free reign I would have unblocked them. Instead, I gave them the opportunity to rethink their actions and either go away, or come back in a better frame of mind. What's the worse that could have happened? Had they created another inappropriate username, I would have blocked them with account creation disabled (and yes, I have done this before); had they created an account and started vandalising I would have blocked their account with account creation disabled; had they never returned there's no harm to CP; had they returned and been a good editor then CP is all the better. I refuse to block people for something they might do. )This is not to say that I will contest any user who blocks people this way).

::::2. Free reign? Hardly. Had I wanted to give them free reign I would have unblocked them. Instead, I gave them the opportunity to rethink their actions and either go away, or come back in a better frame of mind. What's the worse that could have happened? Had they created another inappropriate username, I would have blocked them with account creation disabled (and yes, I have done this before); had they created an account and started vandalising I would have blocked their account with account creation disabled; had they never returned there's no harm to CP; had they returned and been a good editor then CP is all the better. I refuse to block people for something they might do. )This is not to say that I will contest any user who blocks people this way).

:::::Ironic edit conflict: I'll admit that the first time may not have been intentional. It's very strange for someone to make three edits in a row, when they know that all three warrant a response, but the evidence is not conclusive enough to say that you did it on purpose. (I also misread the diffs and thought you were replacing your text, which lead more evidence to my claim). However, doing the exact same thing after I already pointed it out is a bit suspicious, no? That's why, to give you the benefit of the doubt, I instructed you to use the "show preview" button, which is the surefire way to avoid edit conflicts. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:07, 16 November 2008 (EST)

::::Ironic edit conflict: I'll admit that the first time may not have been intentional. It's very strange for someone to make three edits in a row, when they know that all three warrant a response, but the evidence is not conclusive enough to say that you did it on purpose. (I also misread the diffs and thought you were replacing your text, which lead more evidence to my claim). However, doing the exact same thing after I already pointed it out is a bit suspicious, no? That's why, to give you the benefit of the doubt, I instructed you to use the "show preview" button, which is the surefire way to avoid edit conflicts. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:07, 16 November 2008 (EST)

You got blocked again?!  Ouch. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 16:12, 16 November 2008 (EST)

You got blocked again?!  Ouch. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 16:12, 16 November 2008 (EST)

::You ''instructed'' me? My, oh my! I thought that editors had no authority over editors, but now I am expected to comply with the instructions of HelpJazz! Have you been appointed Lord High Panjandrum while I have been away? If so, please instruct me on the correct protocol. Is it a bow from the waist, or a full kow-tow? Do I have to walk backwards when I depart the August HelpJazzian Presence? My Lord will please excuse his humble servant's ignorance of etiquette! [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 18:06, 16 November 2008 (EST)

:You ''instructed'' me? My, oh my! I thought that editors had no authority over editors, but now I am expected to comply with the instructions of HelpJazz! Have you been appointed Lord High Panjandrum while I have been away? If so, please instruct me on the correct protocol. Is it a bow from the waist, or a full kow-tow? Do I have to walk backwards when I depart the August HelpJazzian Presence? My Lord will please excuse his humble servant's ignorance of etiquette! [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 18:06, 16 November 2008 (EST)

 

::Bugler, please cool it, or I'll have to send an email to Andy. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ^{[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]} 18:13, 16 November 2008 (EST)

Bugler, please cool it, or I'll have to send an email to Andy. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ^{[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]} 18:13, 16 November 2008 (EST)

:::Well, honestly! [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 18:14, 16 November 2008 (EST)

:Well, honestly! [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 18:14, 16 November 2008 (EST)

::::Instruct (v.): to give knowledge to. Yes, that's what I did. I didn't say "commanded" or "required" or "demanded" or "forced" or "insisted". Alternatively, I could have said "taught" or "advised" or "showed" or "informed". [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:23, 16 November 2008 (EST)