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::: You can always find someone to dispute statistics, as your own posting demonstrates.  The real obstacle to some is grasping the abstraction of the logic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 14:03, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 
::: You can always find someone to dispute statistics, as your own posting demonstrates.  The real obstacle to some is grasping the abstraction of the logic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 14:03, 16 December 2008 (EST)
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::::I think we're arguing for the same side here, Andy.  I'm not disputing any statistics; that's my point.  The statistics are there ''plain as day'' that an armed citizenry opposes crime.  I would say it's just blind ignorance (or faulty logic) to believe otherwise as opposed to an abstraction.  [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|<sub>Discussion</sub>]] 14:27, 16 December 2008 (EST)
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