::::::Um, if the parents had been abstinate, how would they have had the kid in the first place? [[User:ChrisR|ChrisR]] 11:58, 13 January 2009 (EST) | ::::::Um, if the parents had been abstinate, how would they have had the kid in the first place? [[User:ChrisR|ChrisR]] 11:58, 13 January 2009 (EST) |