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:<blockquote>"Later, in A.D. 850, China invented gunpowder, which also popularized fireworks, another Chinese invention."</blockquote> [[User:MattL|MattL]] 17:08, 11 February 2009 (EST)
 
:<blockquote>"Later, in A.D. 850, China invented gunpowder, which also popularized fireworks, another Chinese invention."</blockquote> [[User:MattL|MattL]] 17:08, 11 February 2009 (EST)
 
:::Are we still denying the fixed rudder as a Chinese innovation? And can there be a word further than "invent". Neither the cultivation of bamboo and its development as a source of artifacts; nor the development of silk, can be classed as an "invention" under the generally held meaning of the word. An example is Watt's development of a working practical steam engine is not normally considered an "invention".[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 17:31, 11 February 2009 (EST)
 
:::Are we still denying the fixed rudder as a Chinese innovation? And can there be a word further than "invent". Neither the cultivation of bamboo and its development as a source of artifacts; nor the development of silk, can be classed as an "invention" under the generally held meaning of the word. An example is Watt's development of a working practical steam engine is not normally considered an "invention".[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 17:31, 11 February 2009 (EST)
:::You have the right word at the start, "innovation."  Adapting or developing things in new ways is usually called innovating, as opposed to creating something entirely new, inventing. [[User:ReneeStJ|ReneeStJ]] 19:30, 11 February 2009 (EST)
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::::You have the right word at the start, "innovation."  Adapting or developing things in new ways is usually called innovating, as opposed to creating something entirely new, inventing. [[User:ReneeStJ|ReneeStJ]] 19:30, 11 February 2009 (EST)
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