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→There is no evidence to suggest that Neanderthals could not speak like modern humans.: Reply to PeterAS
:I'm guessing that came from a suggestion that I made [[User:Philip J. Rayment/Advice to evolutionists|here]], and if you read that, you might have a better understanding of why it's worded that way. But yes, it was only an off-the-cuff suggestion on my part, and it could be improved. Do you have a suggestion that does justice to what it's trying to say? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:35, 16 May 2007 (EDT)
:I'm guessing that came from a suggestion that I made [[User:Philip J. Rayment/Advice to evolutionists|here]], and if you read that, you might have a better understanding of why it's worded that way. But yes, it was only an off-the-cuff suggestion on my part, and it could be improved. Do you have a suggestion that does justice to what it's trying to say? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:35, 16 May 2007 (EDT)
The view that Neandertals could speak, or at least could speak in the same way modern humans can, is not held by most paleoanthropologists today. Reconstructions of Neandertal supralaryngeal vocal tracts show that they would not have been able to form many of the sounds necessary for human speech<ref>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WKT-4K66DPN-1&_user=4421&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000059598&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=4421&md5=0985af742e620a16039c04e1bd073c24</ref>. I would edit the article myself, but it appears to be locked. [[User:PeterAS|PeterAS]] 23:40, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
The view that Neandertals could speak, or at least could speak in the same way modern humans can, is not held by most paleoanthropologists today. Reconstructions of Neandertal supralaryngeal vocal tracts show that they would not have been able to form many of the sounds necessary for human speech[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WKT-4K66DPN-1&_user=4421&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000059598&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=4421&md5=0985af742e620a16039c04e1bd073c24]. I would edit the article myself, but it appears to be locked. [[User:PeterAS|PeterAS]] 23:40, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
: I've removed the <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags from your post, as this is a talk page and there is no <nowiki><references /></nowiki> section.
: Your linked article requires a subscription to read, so I haven't read it.
: Did you read the link in my post just above yours? It has some background to this matter. One point it mentions is that the article previously claimed that Neanderthals ''could'' talk, but evolutionary editors here questioned that on the basis of the unfeasibility of being able to determine that from skeletal remains. But when it suits them, evolutionists want to claim that you ''can'' determine such things!
: Okay, so most paleoanthropologists don't hold that Neanderthals could speak. Most are also evolutionists, so they are hardly unbiased in this matter.
: I notice, though that the paper you referenced was replying to someone else, as though there was disagreement on the issue.
: I suggest that you propose here a better wording, but one that doesn't assume the evolutionary myth, and it can be added to the article if it's reasonable.
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:38, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
== Still trying.... ==
== Still trying.... ==