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: Citations? Oh, and please sign your posts (with three or four tildes) [[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]
: Citations? Oh, and please sign your posts (with three or four tildes) [[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]
Hey, just got to say ... as an atheist and way-left liberal, I still agree that liberals are often just as close-minded and contradictory about their supposed views (which I think are for the most part hypocritical and insincere) as you say. I also think this is true of most conservatives. But I don't hear people admitting that the people they disagree with have a point very much, so there you go. The supposedly objective liberal media (too conservative in my view) is totally unobjective, patronizing to Christians and conservatives, namby-pamby in so many ways, and deeply flawed. I'd way rather have a totally secular socialist state with open gay and transgender marriage and legal (but very, very rare) abortion and a low cap on personal wealth and capitalism in general, sure--I mean, you guys can just string me up right now--but that doesn't make many of your criticisms about liberals totally true and deserved. I wish more people would engage in dialogue and admit their own shortcomings instead of building higher fences all the time; we could learn a lot from each other, and probably get somewhere that way. Of course I think this about you, too, but since I'm talking about liberals here, I know darn well that so many liberals are simply reactionary, running to any non-conservative viewpoint they can, without giving it much thought, simply out of a sense of clannishness. For what it's worth. [[User:Tcwing|Tcwing]] 17:35, 7 April 2009 (EDT)Tcwing
== How Would Jesus Do It? ==
== How Would Jesus Do It? ==