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*Venom is in no way death metal, dude. :P They are just Motörhead with worse production.[[User:Jewishfanofnsbm|Jewishfanofnsbm]] 01:01, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
*Venom is in no way death metal, dude. :P They are just Motörhead with worse production.[[User:Jewishfanofnsbm|Jewishfanofnsbm]] 01:01, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
** I still would add them to the list of bands, though musically they were more likely thrash with influences from style which is now called black metal, those days Venom was commonly referred as black metal. Also, Venom is traditionally categorised to black metal, and even when their music is quite similar to thrash, their poorly produced sound, high and fast guitars and satanic imaginery is what normally makes bands black metal. --[[User:Miihkali|Miihkali]] 16:47, 15 November 2008 (EST)
** I still would add them to the list of bands, though musically they were more likely thrash with influences from style which is now called black metal, those days Venom was commonly referred as black metal. Also, Venom is traditionally categorised to black metal, and even when their music is quite similar to thrash, their poorly produced sound, high and fast guitars and satanic imaginery is what normally makes bands black metal. --[[User:Miihkali|Miihkali]] 16:47, 15 November 2008 (EST)
==How can something be Secular and Satanic?==
Black metal does truly bite when it comes to sound an message but does that really justify for such a contradiction in the introduction to this topic as ''secular and Satanic''?Secular refers to a lack thereof of any religious preferences at all and a stance of neutrality whereas something satanic would dictate that it takes on a religious role and a worship of Satan.isn't that contradictory to the idea of secularism and vice versa?