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The problem with cosmological arguments seems to me that one can assume the universe is eternally, and doens't require a cause. [[User:Ckikilwai|Ckikilwai]] 18:58, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
 
The problem with cosmological arguments seems to me that one can assume the universe is eternally, and doens't require a cause. [[User:Ckikilwai|Ckikilwai]] 18:58, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
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: One can "assume" whatever he likes; but not all assumptions are true.  The assumption that the universe existed eternally is utterly false.  Not even atheistic scientists believe in that assumption.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:33, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
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