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:::Liberals try to invade and transform churches, and the list of examples is too long to provide here.  SBC leadership is taking it down that road, and membership decline is the hefty toll.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:11, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

:::Liberals try to invade and transform churches, and the list of examples is too long to provide here.  SBC leadership is taking it down that road, and membership decline is the hefty toll.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:11, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

::::Again, as I showed in the last post, your examples are not exactly slam-dunk evidence of liberalism. Johnny Hunt is considered withing the SBC as a [http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3332&Itemid=53 fundamentalist] conservative, and the Baptist church's position on social issues could not be [http://www.sbc.net/aboutus/positionstatements.asp clearer]. You're right that the SBC has many members who support Obama, but you're downplaying the importance of Black churches, who make up a fifth or so of the Baptist churches. They're socially very conservative, but are also inspired by what Obama represents. The "tribute" to Obama was no more than a recognition of this constituency's respect, and I believe I made that clear in the last post.

::::Again, as I showed in the last post, your examples are not exactly slam-dunk evidence of liberalism. Johnny Hunt is considered within the SBC as a [http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3332&Itemid=53 fundamentalist] conservative, and the Baptist church's position on social issues could not be [http://www.sbc.net/aboutus/positionstatements.asp clearer]. You're right that the SBC has many members who support Obama, but you're downplaying the importance of Black churches, who make up a fifth or so of the Baptist churches. They're socially very conservative, but are also inspired by what Obama represents. The "tribute" to Obama was no more than a recognition of this constituency's respect, and I believe I made that clear in the last post.

::::I realize that home-schooling is a dear issue to you, but I already explained what I grew up hearing from Baptist preachers all my life: don't separate yourself from the world, live in the world and preach the gospel by example and witness. Does this sound like being soft on liberalism to you? I'd still be curious to get a link from you about this.

::::I realize that home-schooling is a dear issue to you, but I already explained what I grew up hearing from Baptist preachers all my life: don't separate yourself from the world, live in the world and preach the gospel by example and witness. Does this sound like being soft on liberalism to you? I'd still be curious to get a link from you about this.