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== Luke 3:23 ==
 
== Luke 3:23 ==
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I don't see an improvement in capturing original intent by replacing "ostensibly" with "being known as.  This may illustrate the difference between translating based on original intent verses a textualist translation.  We're the former.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:50, 8 November 2009 (EST)
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I don't see an improvement in capturing original intent by replacing "ostensibly" with "being known as." This may illustrate the difference between translating based on original intent verses a textualist translation.  We're the former.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:50, 8 November 2009 (EST)
 
:No, not at all-- mostly, I just prefer the slightly simpler words-- that and the fact that 'ostensibly' is sometimes used to suggest deceit, which I would rather avoid here. [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 17:40, 8 November 2009 (EST)
 
:No, not at all-- mostly, I just prefer the slightly simpler words-- that and the fact that 'ostensibly' is sometimes used to suggest deceit, which I would rather avoid here. [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 17:40, 8 November 2009 (EST)
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::But our version is not dumbing things down.  In fact, that is one of our objections to the [[NIV]], which some say is written at only the 4th grade level.
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::"Being known as" is not accurate.  Mary, Elizabeth, Joseph, John the Baptist and perhaps others always knew he was the Son of God.  And "being known as" is not a word-for-word translation of the Greek either.  Finally, why should anyone care what others may have thought?  "Being known as" just doesn't fit the point of the passage.
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::Ostensibly does not imply deceit in English.  I saw that nowhere in its definition in the dictionary.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:31, 8 November 2009 (EST)
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