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::On unemployment remedies: that was a major issue in 1960-61 and liberals wanted a return to the New Deal solutions, whick Kennedy said NO. He instead picked the conservative options of growth and retraining.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:26, 9 November 2009 (EST)
::On unemployment remedies: that was a major issue in 1960-61 and liberals wanted a return to the New Deal solutions, whick Kennedy said NO. He instead picked the conservative options of growth and retraining.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:26, 9 November 2009 (EST)
::on Test ban: JFK and his closest advisers not only seriously discussed but also actively pursued the possibility of a joint military action with the Soviet Union against China's nuclear installations in early 1963. In their quest for a limited nuclear test ban, Kennedy and his associates sought to aggravate tensions between the Soviet Union and China to a point where the Soviets might join with the United States in a military act against China. see the important article by Gordon H. Chang "JFK, China, and the Bomb" ''Journal of American History'' 1988 74(4): 1287-1310 [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:31, 9 November 2009 (EST)
::on Test ban: JFK and his closest advisers not only seriously discussed but also actively pursued the possibility of a joint military action with the Soviet Union against China's nuclear installations in early 1963. In their quest for a limited nuclear test ban, Kennedy and his associates sought to aggravate tensions between the Soviet Union and China to a point where the Soviets might join with the United States in a military act against China. see the important article by Gordon H. Chang "JFK, China, and the Bomb" ''Journal of American History'' 1988 74(4): 1287-1310 [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:31, 9 November 2009 (EST)
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A few things
<br>1.) I'm not denying that Kennedy adhered to Catholic doctrine re: morals. What I'm saying is this: it was not conservative to have such beliefs in the '40s, '50s, and early-'60s. In fact, it was quite mainstream. We can't use that as a litmus test for Kennedy's conservatism
<br>2.) You've scored a point here; I've not read "The Politics of the Peace Corps & Vista," and I was unaware that he considered it as such. I hadn't read his November 4, 1960 speech in Chicago from which that quote came from (pretty surprising, seeing as I've read most of his speeches). So, apologies there.
<br>3.) I was also unaware that there was a movement in the '60s to return to New Deal style programs of relief. However, does choosing the policies of growth and retraining make Kennedy conservative, or middle-of-the-road? Government-sponsored retraining especially seems like something that would either be considered moderate or maaaybe slightly liberal. So I would argue that, while Kennedy didn't align with liberals on this issue, he was more middle-of-the-road/moderate than he was truly conservative.
<br>4.) I've read the Chang article, and it buttressed what I said earlier about how the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty is frequently discussed as being moderate or pragmatic. It doesn't put forth any argument for the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty being a conservative measure. [[User:ChuckR|ChuckR]] 18:09, 9 November 2009 (EST)