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Talk:Essay:Quantifying Order (view source)
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:Mark was a young boy who wrote about what he witnessed. Young boys are not out on dangerous boats in the middle of the night, so Mark didn't see the walking on water. As to translating "logos", John was trying to communicate the truth there and the Greek was inadequate. I don't think a scientific connotation should be automatically ruled out. Science is, after all, part of truth. But I welcome your views.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:50, 23 November 2009 (EST)
:Mark was a young boy who wrote about what he witnessed. Young boys are not out on dangerous boats in the middle of the night, so Mark didn't see the walking on water. As to translating "logos", John was trying to communicate the truth there and the Greek was inadequate. I don't think a scientific connotation should be automatically ruled out. Science is, after all, part of truth. But I welcome your views.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:50, 23 November 2009 (EST)
The greatness of Isaac Newton is not to be denied. However, that doesn't mean that his ideas can never be superseded, or that we can't disagree with him. According to an essay on Newton by Stephen Snobelen - found via the site isaac-newton.org - Newton believed that the ancient Greeks knew about the inverse-square law of gravitation, but "cloaked [that knowledge] behind the figure of Apollo and his seven-string lyre". Personally, I don't think that is the case. Religiously, Newton seemed to have believed in Arianism, that Jesus wasn't God - a view you probably disagree with. To say that the Bible is not a science book is not "placing limits" on the Bible. Its acknowledging that the Bible is a product of the time(s) when it was written. And its also stating that, characterizing the Bible as a science book mischaracterizes it, and leads to misunderstandings. Reading Mark's stories of the feedings of the multitudes as "order vs disorder" is a woeful misconception of what Mark was trying to say. The one link that JacobB wanted me to check out actually said that Matthew 24:30 somehow is a reference to television!! - which is simply outlandish! Would reading that verse with "television" in mind really improve someone's understanding of it? I'm highly skeptical of that notion, to say the least. Just as I'm skeptical of finding dinosaurs in the Bible, for reasons I've mentioned elsewhere. Realizing that the ancient Hebrews or Greeks didn't know modern science is not to say that they were idiots. The people who wrote the Bible were hardly that. Isn't it enough that they bequeathed to us the idea of monotheism with an ancient logic which, by itself and without the need to inject dinosaurs into it, is still compelling? - Danielitld