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Debate:Is homosexuality responsible for totalitarianism? (view source)
Revision as of 17:53, December 9, 2009
, 17:53, December 9, 2009→No
KStanley, the Nazis murdered gays, as well as Jews, Slavs, Romani, and the mentally challenged. Murder is murder, no matter the number killed. Canada, Sweden, and the UK, although they are indeed more gay-friendly, are immensely less totalitarian than Nazi Germany and Iran. --[[LincolnShuddered|LincolnShuddered]]
KStanley, the Nazis murdered gays, as well as Jews, Slavs, Romani, and the mentally challenged. Murder is murder, no matter the number killed. Canada, Sweden, and the UK, although they are indeed more gay-friendly, are immensely less totalitarian than Nazi Germany and Iran. --[[LincolnShuddered|LincolnShuddered]]
:Homosexuality itself does not logically equate to totalitarianism. The argument KStanley makes is irrelevant, "these two countries have homosexuality legal, but these countries lost their freedoms.", by that logic if Nazi Germany encouraged eating oranges then oranges are responsable for totalitarianism. [[User:Euaaan|Euaaan]] 23:19, 2 October 2009 (EDT)
:Homosexuality itself does not logically equate to totalitarianism. The argument KStanley makes is irrelevant, "these two countries have homosexuality legal, but these countries lost their freedoms.", by that logic if Nazi Germany encouraged eating oranges then oranges are responsable for totalitarianism. [[User:Euaaan|Euaaan]] 23:19, 2 October 2009 (EDT)
Correlations and Causality are distinct. Nazi Germany had 2 types of gays, the Butches and the Fems. Nazis persecuted some fems, but promoted many butches to death camp guards, and used other gays for hit squad cannon fodder. if this sounds completely insane, look up the pink swastika, and the many useful and varied sources and references.
: Clarification : many fems were male, and many butches were also male.
:: Conclusion :: Gays as a whole were not to blame for the Nazi ascendancy and ultimate defeat. Hatred of the homoerotic idea was also not completely involved on either side of the Nazi-counterNazi debate.
with love of Israel,
thanks for the new sig ;) 12:53, 9 December 2009 (EST)