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This article lacks citations, and I don't think that a blanket reference to "God" or "the Bible" is enough. For example, Genesis 3, which describes Eve's actions, the Tree of Knowledge and God's reaction, does not mention Sin. Also, the Young Earth Creationist remarks about genetic dating and mutation surely are not directly Bible-based - I don't think the Bible even mentions the word "mutation". I also don't think that the Bible ever explicitly states that the fall ''caused'' a gradual decline in human lifespans - it definitely doesn't do so in Genesis 5-11, where the patriarchs' lives are listed. Thus, we need better references, both to the specific parts of the Bible used to support the details of the account of the fall of man, and to secondary literature for the interpretation. [[User:Yoritomo|Yoritomo]] 19:26, 11 December 2009 (EST)
 
This article lacks citations, and I don't think that a blanket reference to "God" or "the Bible" is enough. For example, Genesis 3, which describes Eve's actions, the Tree of Knowledge and God's reaction, does not mention Sin. Also, the Young Earth Creationist remarks about genetic dating and mutation surely are not directly Bible-based - I don't think the Bible even mentions the word "mutation". I also don't think that the Bible ever explicitly states that the fall ''caused'' a gradual decline in human lifespans - it definitely doesn't do so in Genesis 5-11, where the patriarchs' lives are listed. Thus, we need better references, both to the specific parts of the Bible used to support the details of the account of the fall of man, and to secondary literature for the interpretation. [[User:Yoritomo|Yoritomo]] 19:26, 11 December 2009 (EST)
 
:Perhaps you should look at the two thousand years of Christian scholarship available to you.  Or the ample information provided by creation scientists on genetic degeneration. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 19:28, 11 December 2009 (EST)
 
:Perhaps you should look at the two thousand years of Christian scholarship available to you.  Or the ample information provided by creation scientists on genetic degeneration. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 19:28, 11 December 2009 (EST)
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::If I knew where to look for the details, I'd add references myself. But unfortunately I don't; that's why I looked up this article in the first place. I'm sure other editors are more knowledgeable about theology than I am; why is asking them for better citations discouraged? Or do you honestly expect every reader to know Christian scholarship in sufficient detail to know where the article's content is derived from? [[User:Yoritomo|Yoritomo]] 19:38, 11 December 2009 (EST)
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