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→Humans are apes.
[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 00:34, 16 January 2010 (EST)
[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 00:34, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:God created us in His image, He did not create us as apes. End of story. [[User:AlexWD|AlexWD]] 00:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:God created us in His image, He did not create us as apes. End of story. [[User:AlexWD|AlexWD]] 00:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::As stated above, there's a distinction between how the word animal is used. An analogy would be cats and dogs. We can agree they are two distinct animals. But we can also agree they have similarities. In the same way, taxonomically, we're apes because that's what we'd be classified. Ape is just a smaller tier of primate. If you reject the fact that we're apes (which actually has smaller groups to which humans are unique), you might as well go all the way up the chain and not call humans primates or animals.-[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 00:35, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::As stated above, there's a distinction between how the word animal is used. An analogy would be cats and dogs. We can agree they are two distinct animals. But we can also agree they have similarities. In the same way, taxonomically, we're apes because that's what we'd be classified. Ape is just a smaller tier of primate. If you reject the fact that we're apes (which actually has smaller groups to which humans are unique), you might as well go all the way up the chain and not call humans primates or animals. -[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 00:35, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::You say that as though there would be something wrong with such a claim. [[User:AlexWD|AlexWD]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::You say that as though there would be something wrong with such a claim. [[User:AlexWD|AlexWD]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::Creationism and evolution aren't at odds here. It's the classification of humans as apes. If they are not apes, what would you propose they are? If they are not animals, you are suggesting that humans have their own separate kingdom. Humans would be considered mammals, yes? Mammals are animals. So humans are animals. We can go down further by saying humans are apes because they have ape characteristics (our digits, especially our thumbs, have apical tufts; but we are distinct from other apes in that we have many more faculties). Ape is just a classification. We tend to equal it with thoughts of gorillas, but it's a much broader term. -[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 01:09, 16 January 2010 (EST)