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Apes don't make and wear clothes, make and use real tools, read and write, pray, or build civilizations. Yes, those are very significant characteristics of humans and to ignore is to live in denial.
:::You say that as though there would be something wrong with such a claim. [[User:AlexWD|AlexWD]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::You say that as though there would be something wrong with such a claim. [[User:AlexWD|AlexWD]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::Creationism and evolution aren't at odds here. It's the classification of humans as apes. If they are not apes, what would you propose they are? If they are not animals, you are suggesting that humans have their own separate kingdom. Humans would be considered mammals, yes? Mammals are animals. So humans are animals. We can go down further by saying humans are apes because they have ape characteristics (our digits, especially our thumbs, have apical tufts; but we are distinct from other apes in that we have many more faculties). Ape is just a classification. We tend to equal it with thoughts of gorillas, but it's a much broader term. -[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 01:09, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::Creationism and evolution aren't at odds here. It's the classification of humans as apes. If they are not apes, what would you propose they are? If they are not animals, you are suggesting that humans have their own separate kingdom. Humans would be considered mammals, yes? Mammals are animals. So humans are animals. We can go down further by saying humans are apes because they have ape characteristics (our digits, especially our thumbs, have apical tufts; but we are distinct from other apes in that we have many more faculties). Ape is just a classification. We tend to equal it with thoughts of gorillas, but it's a much broader term. -[[User:JulietB|JulietB]] 01:09, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Apes don't make and wear clothes, make and use real tools, read and write, pray, or build civilizations. Yes, those are very significant characteristics of humans and to ignore them is to live in denial.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 07:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)